Geometric Series: Finding the nth Term

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying the nature of a given sequence and finding a formula for the nth term. Participants explore whether the sequence is classified as a series or a sequence, and they propose methods to derive the nth term formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a sequence defined by the recurrence relation a_{n+1} = 3a_n - 1, starting with a_1 = 1, and questions the classification of the sequence versus a series.
  • Another participant suggests expanding a_n using the recurrence relation and proposes a transformation to simplify the formula.
  • A different participant emphasizes the need to express a(n) in terms of a(1) and notes that part of the solution involves a geometric series.
  • One participant clarifies the distinction between a sequence and a series, asserting that the given list is a sequence since it does not involve summation.
  • Another participant proposes a formula for a(n) as [1 + 3^(n - 1)] / 2, which aligns with the provided sequence values.
  • One participant argues that the distinction between sequence and series is unimportant for the purpose of finding the nth term, suggesting that basic logic suffices to identify it as a list of numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of distinguishing between sequences and series. While some focus on the classification, others consider it irrelevant to the task of finding the nth term. There is no consensus on the significance of this distinction.

Contextual Notes

Participants engage in various interpretations of the sequence's nature and the implications for deriving the nth term. The discussion includes unresolved assumptions about the definitions of sequences and series.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in sequences, series, mathematical reasoning, and the exploration of recurrence relations may find this discussion relevant.

Helios
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This looks almost like a geometric series;

1, 2, 5, 14, 41, 122, 365, ...

but each term is one less than three times the preceeding one. So is this a sequence or a series? What is a formula for the value of the nth term in terms of n?
 
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So basically you have

(1) [tex]\ \ \a_{n+1} = 3a_n-1 \ \ \[/tex]

and [tex]a_1 = 1[/tex].


I suggest you try to expand [tex]a_n[/tex] using (1) given above, hypothesise a reasonable formula for [tex]a_n[/tex] and prove your suggestion by induction.

A trick however: Set [tex]b_n = a_n- \frac{1}{2}[/tex]. In that case the formula (1) is reduced to [tex]b_{n+1} + \frac{1}{2} = 3(b_n + \frac{1}{2})-1 \Leftrightarrow b_{n+1}=3b_n[/tex]. This you can surely solve easily.
 
You should write out what a(n) is in terms of a(1). It's quite easy. On part will be a geometric series.
 
Helios said:
This looks almost like a geometric series;

1, 2, 5, 14, 41, 122, 365, ...

but each term is one less than three times the preceeding one. So is this a sequence or a series? What is a formula for the value of the nth term in terms of n?
Do you not understand the difference between a sequence and a series? A series is a sum of numbers. It has nothing to do with being "geometric" or not. '1, 3, 9, 27, ... is a goemetric sequence. 1+ 3+ 9+ ... is a geometric series.

What you give is a sequence because there is no sum. 1+ 2+ 5+ 14+ ... would be a series.
 
ok, this looks like it's it,

a ( n ) = [1 + 3^( n - 1 )] / 2 = 1, 2, 5, 14, 41, 122, 365, ...
 
Well a series is a sequence if we take a series to be the limit of its partial sums, which in many scenarios is the case. But yeah I consider even basic questions like "is this a sequence or a series" to be unimportant. Basic logic indicates that it is a list of numbers, and not a sum, so who cares what it's called if you need to find the n-th term?
 

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