Geosynchronous Satellites: Distance & Formula Analysis

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The discussion revolves around the analysis of geosynchronous satellites, specifically focusing on the formulas used to calculate orbital velocity and period. Participants explore the implications of distance from the Earth's surface on these calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of different formulas for calculating satellite velocity and period, questioning the assumptions behind the period of 24 hours for geosynchronous satellites. There is an exploration of how distance affects these calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants reflecting on their assumptions and calculations. Some have provided alternative approaches to the problem, while others are reconsidering their initial thoughts on the period of the satellite.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific distances for satellites and the potential impact of these distances on their calculations. There is also a reference to using known surface gravity instead of certain constants in the calculations.

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Homework Statement
A satellite orbits Earth at altitudes of 5000 km. What is its speed with respect to the center of Earth? The radius of the Earth is 6380 km and its mass is 5.98 x 1024 kg.
Relevant Equations
V=sqrt(G*me/r)
V=2pir/T
My work is attached. I did get the answer right using the formula V=√(G*me/r).

Im just confused as to why I can't use V=2pi*r/T to also get the right answer? With this equation I would assume T=86400s.

I was able to use both equations to get the correct answer for a problem relating to geosynchronous satellite. The satellite for this problem was 200km from the Earth's surface, which is significantly closer than 5000km.

Does distance play a factor and if so, how?

I appreciate any and all responses.
 

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quittingthecult said:
With this equation I would assume T=86400s.
What makes you think the period would be 24 hours?
 
haruspex said:
What makes you think the period would be 24 hours?
I was just assuming that based off the geosynchronous satellite I solved. I was completely wrong. I used the value I got from my answer and solved for T and the period was 12078s.

I totally jumped the gun asking the question here without really thinking about my question. Sorry.
 
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quittingthecult said:
I was just assuming that based off the geosynchronous satellite I solved. I was completely wrong. I used the value I got from my answer and solved for T and the period was 12078s.

I totally jumped the gun asking the question here without really thinking about my question. Sorry.
No problem.
 
quittingthecult said:
I was just assuming that based off the geosynchronous satellite I solved. I was completely wrong. I used the value I got from my answer and solved for T and the period was 12078s.

I totally jumped the gun asking the question here without really thinking about my question. Sorry.
You can also get the answer without the mass of the Earth or ##G##, but using the known surface gravity. The magnitude of the force on the satellite is: $$F = \frac{GM_e m}{r^2} = \frac{mR_e^2}{r^2}\frac{GM_e}{R_e^2} = \frac{mR_e^2}{r^2}g$$ And the centripetal force is $$F_c = \frac{mv^2}{r}$$ Equating these two gives: $$v = R_e\sqrt{\frac g r} = R_e\sqrt{\frac g {R_e + h}}$$
 

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