Get the minimum taken to move from A to B given a cap on Velocity

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The discussion revolves around finding the minimum time taken for an object to cover a specified distance (x) given constraints on initial velocity (V0), maximum permissible acceleration (a), and maximum permissible velocity (Vmax). Participants are exploring the implications of these parameters on the kinematic equations provided.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations and the reasoning behind using x/2 to determine time. There are questions about the validity of this approach and the interpretation of the equations in relation to Vmax. Some suggest breaking the problem into cases based on whether Vmax is reached.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's assumptions. There is no explicit consensus yet, but suggestions for considering different scenarios based on Vmax have been made.

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There is uncertainty regarding the requirement for the object to stop accelerating before reaching the final destination, which is being debated among participants. Additionally, the original poster's attempts to apply the equations have yielded mixed results, indicating potential gaps in understanding the relationship between acceleration, velocity, and distance.

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Homework Statement


Find the minimum time taken for the object to cover the distance x

I'm given the following:
x = the distance i need to cover
V0 = the initial velocity which is zero
a = the maximum permissible acceleration
Vmax = the maximum permissible velocity

Homework Equations



the speed of the object is (v0 + t * a) at time t
the object will be (v0 * t + 0.5 * a * t^2) away

The Attempt at a Solution



I used the kinematic equation x/2 = V0 + 0.5at^2 to find t. In some case this worked for example using the test case x = 1, a = 2, Vmax = 10 then t = 1.414...; x = 1, a = 1, Vmax = 1 then t = 2s
but for the case x = 10, a=1, Vmax = 1 I failed to get the correct answer (11 s). Would anyone here please help me understand how to account for Vmax and a. I'm not sure how the equations given in the problem statement aid in getting the answer. thanks
 
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I don't understand the /2 in "x/2" in your equation. Neither do I see how you got t=sqrt(2) for x =1, a=2, with or without the /2. Did you mean x=1, a=1?
For this sort of problem, the answer is not going to pop out directly from the equations. You have to break it into cases. First, suppose Vmax is not reached, and solve with SUVAT as you have. Then check whether the final velocity exceeds Vmax. If so, start again, finding the time taken to reach Vmax. See how you go from there.
 
haruspex said:
I don't understand the /2 in "x/2" in your equation. Neither do I see how you got t=sqrt(2) for x =1, a=2, with or without the /2. Did you mean x=1, a=1?
For this sort of problem, the answer is not going to pop out directly from the equations. You have to break it into cases. First, suppose Vmax is not reached, and solve with SUVAT as you have. Then check whether the final velocity exceeds Vmax. If so, start again, finding the time taken to reach Vmax. See how you go from there.

I used x/2 because the object after reaching halfway would have to stop accelerating in order to reach the final destination (exactly 1m) with a velocity of 0 m/s. so if x = 1 then using half of x i can find the time it took to reach halfway then multiply by 2 to get the total time for the entire distance.
 
thejackal said:
I used x/2 because the object after reaching halfway would have to stop accelerating in order to reach the final destination (exactly 1m) with a velocity of 0 m/s.
You didn't mention that requirement originally. Is it a requirement? Anyway, what I suggested for taking Vmax into account should work either way.
 

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