Getting a BS in Math or Physics: Advice for a UC Davis Freshman

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A freshman at UC Davis is considering whether to pursue a BS in Mathematics, Physics, or a double major, with aspirations in quantum gravity and foundational issues in quantum mechanics. The discussion emphasizes the importance of a solid foundation in physics while also recognizing the mathematical rigor required in fields like Loop Quantum Gravity and Isham's topos in quantum theory. Recommendations include majoring in Physics with advanced math electives, engaging in independent study projects, and consulting with professors from both departments to navigate the decision effectively.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of quantum mechanics and foundational issues in physics
  • Familiarity with advanced mathematical concepts such as topology and Lie groups
  • Knowledge of independent research methodologies in academic settings
  • Awareness of the academic structure and requirements for BS degrees in Mathematics and Physics
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  • Research the curriculum for a BS in Physics at UC Davis, focusing on advanced math electives
  • Explore independent study opportunities in quantum mechanics or mathematical physics
  • Identify and reach out to professors involved in quantum gravity research
  • Investigate the benefits of a double major versus a major-minor combination in Physics and Mathematics
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Undergraduate students considering a career in quantum mechanics, aspiring physicists and mathematicians, and anyone interested in the intersection of mathematics and physics in advanced research fields.

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All right, I'm a first year freshman at UC Davis, and I can graduate in three years with a BS in math, or five years with a BS in physics (taking a number of math courses), or possibly 6 years with a BS in math and in physics.

I want to go into quantum gravity and foundational issues in quantum mechanics, or something along those lines. It seems to me that it would be a good idea to go with math since that will be used extensively in quantum gravity (viz. Loop Quantum Gravity alone!) or foundational issues in quantum mechanics (e.g. Isham's topos in quantum theory).

But I was always told that I ought to get a good, solid foundation in physics from (well) physicists. Should I disregard their advice and go for the BS in math since it's faster? Or should I get a BS in math and physics? Or just physics?

Thanks for any advice!
 
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I've got about the same goals as you, and am still in undergrad. My plan is basically this:

major in physics, taking lots of advanced math electives (~10). Things like advanced analysis, a few algebra courses, lie groups, topology

I'm planning on doing a Masters in math after this, probably in mathematical physics, lie groups or something similar
After this, though it's quite far, I'd probably take a PhD back in a physics department

It seems to make sense to me. You don't really need a BS in math to do these, just get it in physics, and take as many math electives as you can, while still not being forced into some math requirements which would be useless for your field.

Another possibility might be to take the BS in math and take a lot of physics electives, but I don't quite like this one as much. Seems like you'd be missing a lot of stuff, things like electrodynamics, more advanced QM, courses on GR and so no.
 
A degree in physics would probably suit you more than a degree in math. A physics major with a math minor would probably be pretty good, or just do the double major. If you take 2 classes each summer you can save a lot of time (and money) getting the double major.
 
Regardless of the courses/major (also I lean also to a degree in physics with lots of math or a dual)... also try to get involved in an independent study project with a professor doing research in the area... this could be through the department of math or physics. It will make you more competitive for grad schools, give you hands on experience, and give you a personal advisor (with networks!) when it comes time to choose your next step after graduation.
 
pqnelson said:
All right, I'm a first year freshman at UC Davis, and I can graduate in three years with a BS in math, or five years with a BS in physics (taking a number of math courses), or possibly 6 years with a BS in math and in physics.

I want to go into quantum gravity and foundational issues in quantum mechanics, or something along those lines. It seems to me that it would be a good idea to go with math since that will be used extensively in quantum gravity (viz. Loop Quantum Gravity alone!) or foundational issues in quantum mechanics (e.g. Isham's topos in quantum theory).

Woo-hoo! I got my undergrad EE degree at UCD! Good school, and a fun place to live. We try to make it to Picnic Day every year.

What professors in the Physics and Math departments are involved in research that is closest to what you want to do? I'd recommend talking to them -- they'll probably each have a bias towards their own department of course, but at least you'll be able to talk over the issues involved in the two specialties versus combining them in a double major.

Best of luck! :biggrin:
 

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