Getting into grad school with a less than amazing record

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of applying to graduate school in physics with a less than ideal academic record, particularly in light of health issues affecting performance. Participants share personal experiences and strategies regarding GPA, GRE scores, and the importance of research experience and recommendations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant discusses how a bacterial infection negatively impacted their grades and GRE scores, leading to concerns about their chances of admission to physics graduate programs.
  • Another participant shares a similar experience, emphasizing their strong research background and GPA despite low GRE scores, suggesting that schools may consider overall potential rather than just test scores.
  • A third participant recommends staying in school for an additional semester to ensure mastery of the material, rather than solely focusing on raising the GPA.
  • A later reply highlights that the participant's poor performance on the GRE was due to illness during the exam, which raises questions about the fairness of standardized testing under such conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of GPA and GRE scores in the admissions process, with some believing that strong research experience and recommendations can mitigate lower scores, while others emphasize the need to improve academic performance before applying. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could influence admissions decisions, including health-related issues, the timing of applications, and the variability in how different schools evaluate candidates. There is no consensus on the impact of these factors on individual applications.

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Students considering graduate school in physics who are facing challenges with their academic records, particularly those who have experienced health issues or other extenuating circumstances.

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Hello all.

Problem: This semester I fell ill with a bad bacterial infection and was ill for a while (with temporary partial hearing loss in one ear). It caused my grades and GRE scores to suffer IMMENSELY. I can't retake the physics GRE but I am retaking the general one. And also my grades this semester caused my gpa to fall below 3.0 (but only slightly, not much). But I also have a ton of research experience and really good recommendation. I'm thinking of staying in school another semester to take courses to bring back up my gpa but I'm unsure. Does anyone have an idea how much this will damage my chances of getting into a physics grad school?

P.S. I'm a natural born US citizen and native English speaker (I've been told this works in your favor)

Thanks!
 
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diewlasing said:
Hello all.

Problem: This semester I fell ill with a bad bacterial infection and was ill for a while (with temporary partial hearing loss in one ear). It caused my grades and GRE scores to suffer IMMENSELY. I can't retake the physics GRE but I am retaking the general one. And also my grades this semester caused my gpa to fall below 3.0 (but only slightly, not much). But I also have a ton of research experience and really good recommendation. I'm thinking of staying in school another semester to take courses to bring back up my gpa but I'm unsure. Does anyone have an idea how much this will damage my chances of getting into a physics grad school?

P.S. I'm a natural born US citizen and native English speaker (I've been told this works in your favor)

Thanks!

I have a somewhat similar experience, but I did not get sick. I just had my buisiest semester ever. My gre scores are crap to say the least(630 phys, 490 verbal(small vocabulary)). THey do not reflect my abilities. But I have been published twice, once in a major journal, and the other as first author. I have a near perfect physics gpa, and have taken more physics classes than any other student in the department. My school gpa is very good aswell. MY recommendations should be good. While i will have deficiencies I hope that graduate schools will over look my gre scores and actually evaluate my real potential as a student. While bad scores will eliminate you from some schools, they will not eliminate you from all. Do like me and apply to a whole range of schools from the best to the worst. (it doesn't hurt that my first choice is not the best school). Most of all don't give up (I haven't amazingly.) And if you don't get in get a good job for a year and try again. That is my plan. But I hope that I get into a graduate program. I think that I will get into alteast one. One of the programs that I will apply to, a friend with much worse scores applied to and got in, so there is hope.

good luck.Oh a couple of recommendations:
1) get started now. Most apps are due soon
2) for future takers of the Physics GRE don't answer too many questions. I got 48 correct, but because i got so many wrong it ended up killing my score.
 
I think it's a good idea to stay in school for another term (and to retake the GRE), but not to raise your GPA (although it will do that too). The low grades are a symptom of not having learned the material while you were sick. The smart thing to do is to make sure you've learned it before moving on.
 
Well actually, in all of my physics classes I get good grades, I finished those last year, I've just been doing electives and core requirements since. And on the GREs, it's not that I didn't know the material, its that was nauseous and the proctors didn't allow water or anything, even tissues, and the cold chills from the fever wasn't really a great asset in helping my focus. And I don't have time to take the GREs again, even if I stay on another semester.
 

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