Give a good explanation of determinants?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of determinants in mathematics, specifically focusing on their interpretation, significance, and the desire for engaging explanations beyond procedural instructions. Participants explore theoretical insights and applications related to determinants.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for engaging resources that explain the purpose and significance of determinants, rather than just the computational methods.
  • Another participant suggests understanding determinants through their formal properties, particularly multilinearity, and their geometric interpretation as volumes of parallelograms or parallelepipeds.
  • A suggestion is made to refer to 'Analysis on Manifolds' by Munkres for a deeper understanding of why determinants behave as they do.
  • A participant acknowledges the importance of determinants in mathematics and mentions encountering them while studying vectors.
  • A technical explanation is provided, stating that the determinant of an NxN matrix represents the oriented volume of the N-parallelepiped defined by its column or row vectors, illustrated with an example of a parallelogram in two dimensions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of determinants in mathematics and their geometric interpretation, but there is no consensus on the best resources or methods for explaining them in an engaging manner.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express dissatisfaction with existing resources, indicating a potential limitation in the availability of engaging explanations that capture the significance of determinants beyond their computational aspects.

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This discussion may be useful for students and educators seeking a deeper understanding of determinants, as well as those looking for engaging resources to explain mathematical concepts effectively.

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I don't think this goes under H/W questions, as it's not a specific question needing solving, or a proof, etc.
Getting back to the point, anyone know any good websites or sources that give a good explanation of determinants? I mean what they do, why they do it, not just how to do it. I googled and got pretty boring stuff that tended to be either simply how to do them or just...well... lacking excitment.
Thanks!
 
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Try to understand the formal properties (multilinearity) in terms of the interpretation as the volume of the parallelogram/parallelepiped (see the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinant" ).
Determinants may not be the most exciting thing you will ever learn, but absolutely essential in almost all fields of math and applications of math.
 
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If you want to know why the determinant does what it does, pick up 'Analysis on Manifolds' by Munkres.
 


Cheers guys
I know what you mean by not the most exciting thing! Blimey, but I kind of get what you mean by important. I came across determinants reading about vectors.
Thanks again.
 


The determinant of an NxN matrix is equal to the oriented volume of the N-parallelepiped defined by the N column vectors (or alternatively, the N row vectors) of that matrix.

So for example, if you have a parallelogram defined by two vectors in the plane, (1,2) and (-1,3), then the area of this parallelogram is given by

[tex]A = \left| \begin{array}{rr}1 & -1 \\ 2 & 3 \end{array} \right| = (1)(3) - (-1)(2) = 5[/tex]

which you can check geometrically, if you like.
 

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