Given 2 series' an bn, what can be said about cn when

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of two series, {an} and {bn}, particularly focusing on the sums and products of these series as they approach infinity. The original poster seeks to understand the implications of the limits of these series, where {an} diverges to infinity and {bn} is a constant K, which is unknown.

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  • Participants explore the implications of the series' limits, questioning the behavior of the sum and product of the series. They discuss conditions under which these operations yield defined or undefined results, particularly focusing on the value of K.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which the series converge or diverge. Some participants have provided insights into the definitions of divergence and convergence, while others are questioning the implications of specific values of K, particularly when K is zero.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of series convergence, particularly in cases where one series diverges and the other may be zero or a constant. The discussion includes considerations of undefined expressions and the need for precise definitions in mathematical reasoning.

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given 2 unknown number series {an}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex] and {bn}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex], if it is know that {an}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex]=infinity and {bn}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex]=K,
K=constant unknown

what can be said about
{an+bn}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex]
{an*bn}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex]


i think that
{an+bn}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex]= infinity, since:
{an+bn}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex]={an}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex]+{bn}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex]= infinity + K = infinity

as for {an*bn}[tex]^{infinity}_{n=1}[/tex], i don't think anything can be said for sure, since K could be a number or 0,

am i right?? is there a proper mathematical way to write this?
 
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Partially right.
If K=0 it's usually undefined, but if K>0 then K*infinity=infinity and if K<0 then... what can you say it equals to?

If you need to check the definitions there they are:
1. a_n=infinity iff for every M>0 there exists N such that for every n>N a_n>M
2. a_n=-infinity iff for every M<0 there exists N such that for every n>N a_n<M.
 
i am asked is Cn converges when
Cn=An+Bn,---> does not converge

Cn=AnBn--->if |Bn|>0 - does not converge
but if Bn=0, then it is undefined, so what does that mean, diverge/converge/something else??
 
Well, now when I think of it if Bn=0, and An->infinity then AnBn->0 because AnBn=0 for every natural n.
If the question were, Bn->0 but not indetically 0, then it's undefined.
 

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