Given a mass, how much mass of this solid will dissolve in w

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the solubility of Fe(OH)3 in water, specifically how much of the solid will dissolve given its Ksp value and the volume of water. The focus is on applying the solubility product constant (Ksp) and understanding the relationship between mass, moles, and concentration.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the concentration of dissolved Fe(OH)3 using the Ksp equation and arrives at a mass that they believe is incorrect, questioning the relevance of the starting mass.
  • Another participant suggests considering the concentration of OH- ions in the solution.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether to use the mass of Fe(OH)3 given in the problem to find moles and concentration.
  • A later reply confirms that the mass calculated from Ksp should be used instead of the original mass provided in the question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to the problem, with some suggesting different methods for calculating the concentration and mass of dissolved Fe(OH)3.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential confusion regarding the relevance of the initial mass of Fe(OH)3 and the proper application of Ksp in the calculations. There are unresolved aspects regarding the interpretation of the Ksp value and its implications for the solubility of the compound.

Who May Find This Useful

Students working on solubility product problems in chemistry, particularly those involving solid-liquid equilibria and Ksp calculations.

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Homework Statement


If 0.025 g of Fe(OH)3 is added to 3.84 L of water, what mass will dissolve? Ksp is 2.8E-39.

Homework Equations


Ksp = [x][x]
n= m/M

The Attempt at a Solution


I believe in this question that the starting mass is deemed irrelevant (although now i am starting to believe that is required to do something)

So, Fe(OH)3 = Fe + 3OH, this means that our Ksp equation will be

(x)(3x)^3 = 2.8E-39
So we can simplify to 27x^4 = 2.8E-39, solve for x to get the concentration, which will yield 1.009E-10 mol/L.Now multiply by volume:
1.009E-10 mol/L * 3.84 L = 3.875E-10 mol * 106.8670 g/mol = 4.14E-8 grams. This is what i am getting and this incorrect. Can someone explain why, and also can someone explain if we have to use the starting mass somehow.
 
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Think about concentration of OH-.
 
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Borek said:
Think about concentration of OH-.
ok so with the mass of the Fe(OH)3 we are given we can find the moles of it and turn it into concentration, is this what you are referring to?
 
Revengeance said:
ok so with the mass of the Fe(OH)3 we are given we can find the moles of it and turn it into concentration, is this what you are referring to?

Yes, just remember to use the mass that you calculated from Ksp, not the original one given in the question.
 

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