Given: parallelogram and right angle; Prove: parallelogram

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The discussion revolves around proving that quadrilateral FBCD is a parallelogram, given that ABCE is a parallelogram and certain angle relationships. Participants are exploring the properties of parallelograms and theorems related to angles and parallel lines in geometry.

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  • Participants are questioning the validity of their definitions and reasoning in the proof process. There are discussions about the implications of having two right angles and how that relates to the properties of parallel lines. Some are considering theorems regarding angles and their relationships to establish the necessary conditions for FBCD to be a parallelogram.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. There is a recognition of the need to clarify definitions and theorems, and some participants are seeking guidance on how to effectively illustrate proofs and understand the language of geometry.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the assumptions they can make based on the properties of parallelograms and the angles involved. There is also a mention of a lack of resources for learning the mechanics of geometric proofs, which may influence the depth of the discussion.

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I'm curious if it looks like I defined the reasons correctly to prove that FBCD is indeed a parallelogram. Specifically, I'm unsure if I'm using #4 "definition of coincident" and #5,6 "reflexive property" correctly in their terminology. I don't have anyone else, or any teacher to ping this back to or I would try to not waste space here. This is my finished proof:

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I apologize about cutting the top half of the worked problem off. It should be mirrored to the unworked problem above. If it helps, I can repost the image upon request.
 
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Wasn't ##AD // BC## because ABCE is a parallelogram ?

And isn't there a theorem stating ##\angle F = \angle D \rightarrow FB // CD ## ?
And then you have enough to state FBCD is a parallelogram.
 
BvU said:
Wasn't ##AD // BC## because ABCE is a parallelogram ?

And isn't there a theorem stating ##\angle F = \angle D \rightarrow FB // CD ## ?
And then you have enough to state FBCD is a parallelogram.
Sorry for the late reply, just got back from school.

Am I allowed to automatically assume that AD // BC because of the two 90° angles lying upon the line. I understand that this is true, but am I allowed to state this like:
AD//BC : ABCE is a parallelogram

or is there another way in which I must state this, such as:
∠F and ∠D are both _|_ (or maybe supplementary together?), whilst lying on the same line AE, which is stated to be parallel to BC based on the property of a parallelogram having parallel opposite sides.

Also, finding "parallelogram converses," I see that:

If both pairs of opposite angles of a quadrilateral are congruent, the quadrilateral is a parallelogram.

Does this reason satisfy #4. I want to say that because both of these opposite angles are congruent to one another, and also a special case of 90°, that they form a rectangle and thus must be a parallelogram, based on the definition of a rectangle.
 
Joodez said:
Am I allowed to automatically assume that AD // BC because of the two 90° angles lying upon the line. I understand that this is true, but am I allowed to state this like:
AD//BC : ABCE is a parallelogram
ABCE is a parallelogram is a given. From that you conclude ##AD//BC## so ##FD//BC##.
To prove that FDBC is a parallelogram, you have to either prove ##FB//DC##, or, quoting
Joodez said:
If both pairs of opposite angles of a quadrilateral are congruent, the quadrilateral is a parallelogram.
that ##\angle B = \angle D## and ##\angle C = \angle F##.

With the first you are done when there is
BvU said:
a theorem stating ∠F=∠D→FB//CD∠F=∠D→FB//CD\angle F = \angle D \rightarrow FB // CD ?
With the second you kind of have the reverse theorem(And I am positive that one exists -- even after 50+ years):
##AB//CE \Rightarrow \angle BAF = \angle CED##. That can lead you to ## \angle BFD = \angle BCD## and idem ##\angle B = \angle D##
 
BvU said:
ABCE is a parallelogram is a given. From that you conclude ##AD//BC## so ##FD//BC##.
To prove that FDBC is a parallelogram, you have to either prove ##FB//DC##, or, quoting
that ##\angle B = \angle D## and ##\angle C = \angle F##.

With the first you are done when there is

With the second you kind of have the reverse theorem(And I am positive that one exists -- even after 50+ years):
##AB//CE \Rightarrow \angle BAF = \angle CED##. That can lead you to ## \angle BFD = \angle BCD## and idem ##\angle B = \angle D##

I've realized that I need to do a complete reboot of proofs. I understand most of the principles and techniques discovered in geometry. However, I cannot successfully illustrate proofs and especially the reasons for which statements are valid. Thank you for your assistance. I would like to ask one final question and that is:

What is a good resource for someone without a geometry book to learn the language and mechanics of "proofs" as utilized in geometry? So far I've been searching about for rules and etc, but if there's a comprehensive guide of any length, I would really appreciate being pointed in that direction.
 

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