Going into engineering for college, have questions

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The discussion revolves around the expectations and realities of pursuing a career in Mechanical Engineering, particularly regarding salary prospects after obtaining a degree. Participants explore the implications of educational investment versus potential earnings, as well as alternative career paths.

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  • One participant expresses concern about the average salary of Mechanical Engineers, questioning if it justifies the time and expense of obtaining advanced degrees.
  • Another participant challenges the expectation of high starting salaries, asserting that $300K salaries for new graduates are unrealistic.
  • Some participants acknowledge that while initial salaries may be lower, they expect earnings to increase significantly after gaining experience.
  • There are suggestions to consider alternative fields that may offer higher salaries, such as law or medicine, though some participants express a lack of interest in these areas.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of balancing passion for engineering with realistic salary expectations, noting that typical starting salaries for engineers are generally lower than those in medicine or law.
  • Another participant provides links to resources for average engineering salaries, indicating that starting salaries can vary based on experience and demand.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on salary expectations for Mechanical Engineers. While some agree that starting salaries are typically lower, others maintain that significant earnings can be achieved with experience. Disagreement exists regarding the feasibility of achieving high salaries immediately after graduation.

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Participants reference various salary ranges for engineers based on educational attainment and experience, but these figures are not universally accepted and may depend on specific circumstances and job markets.

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Prospective engineering students, individuals considering career paths in STEM fields, and those interested in salary expectations for engineering professions may find this discussion relevant.

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Alright so I am wanting to go into Mechanical Engineering, however I have looked at the average pay for a ME and its only about 65k...to me that is pathetic, especially if I am at least going to get my Masters, if not a PHd. If I spend that much time in school I am going to expect some decent money. I do not mean to sound greedy, at all, but I have worked very hard so far and have taken AP Physics and have maintained a 3.65 GPA at a private school, while taking an AP class every year. If your curious about the colleges I am looking at this is my list: Texas A&M, Colorado State University, Washington State University, Penn State, University of Arizona, and I have a few others. Colorado is probably one of my favorites, as it is an awesome campus and I love the state. I realize out of all those Texas A&M is probably one of the best, and actually speaking of Texas A&M, our family knows a couple going there who are majoring in Nuclear Engineering. They are guaranteed a job that pays 300k a piece! WOW! I guess the bottom line is...if I work my butt off and major in Mechanical Engineering will I make good money (over 100k)??
 
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I think you're being sold a bill of goods. No engineer is making $300K right out of college, at least not legally. Are you expecting to make >$100K right out of school? If so, I expect you will be disappointed. Try looking on line for starting salaries for engineers - $65K/year is pretty typical.
 
I'm not expecting to make 100k first year, what I make my first year and what I make after as I progress in whatever job it is that I have are two different things. I'm just saying you can't be expecting someone to go to school for that long (masters or doctorate) and pay that kind of money for a university and be making 65k a year. Yes I would be expecting to be making 100k or more after the first couple years. And I am pretty sure that the people we know making 300k a year is true, but maybe not
 
Kawasaki268F said:
Yes I would be expecting to be making 100k or more after the first couple years.
You should probably look into other fields.
 
Gokul43201 said:
You should probably look into other fields.
.

Such as...?
 
Commercial Real Estate, Law, Anesthesiology, Surgery,...
 
Real estate is something I can do on the side, but no thanks to law and medicine, I have nooo interest in that at all. Engineering is what I've wanted to do for a long time, but I'd like to live a nice life if I'm going to spending that much time in school. What's the point if your making no more than your average person
 
Kawasaki268F said:
Real estate is something I can do on the side, but no thanks to law and medicine, I have nooo interest in that at all. Engineering is what I've wanted to do for a long time, but I'd like to live a nice life if I'm going to spending that much time in school. What's the point if your making no more than your average person
The point is that if you make what an average person in the US makes, you're going to live a comfortable life doing engineering, a thing you supposedly love. But I guess life just sucks like that sometimes.
 
Kawasaki268F said:
I'm just saying you can't be expecting someone to go to school for that long (masters or doctorate) and pay that kind of money for a university and be making 65k a year. Yes I would be expecting to be making 100k or more after the first couple years. And I am pretty sure that the people we know making 300k a year is true, but maybe not
One seems to have expectations beyond reality, as well as a seemingly inflated self-assessment. I'll guarantee you that no person fresh out of university is going to make $300K/yr, unless they have some extraordinary experience. Most engineers I know worked themselves as hard as any doctor, in school and professionally. However, engineers salaries are generally less than those of doctors. On the other hand, medical school and law school generally cost more than grad school, and many doctors and lawyers are deeply in debt upon completion of their degrees.

Undergrads in engineering are likely to make in the range of $50K/yr, MS maybe $60 K/hr and PhDs $70K/yr, if they have no professional experience. With professional experience and skill in high demand, salaries would increase.

Not all professionals in the areas cited by Gokul make something like $300K. Such a salary would go to the best of the best.
 
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Astronuc said:
One seems to have expectations beyond reality, as well as a seemingly inflated self-assessment. I'll guarantee you that no person fresh out of university is going to make $300K/yr, unless they have some extraordinary experience. Most engineers I know worked themselves as hard as any doctor, in school and professionally. However, engineers salaries are generally less than those of doctors. On the other hand, medical school and law school generally cost more than grad school, and many doctors and lawyers are deeply in debt upon completion of their degrees.

Undergrads in engineering are likely to make in the range of $50K/yr, MS maybe $60 K/hr and PhDs $70K/yr, if they have no professional experience. With professional experience and skill in high demand, salaries would increase.

Not all professionals in the areas cited by Gokul make something like $300K. Such a salary would go to the best of the best.

thanks a lot! i don't mean to sound like some greedy person, but I would hate to work hard throughout school like I already have and end up failing...my dad is a dentist and my mom is in medical sales, they make good money, I want to be able to live like them.
 
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http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm#earnings

Engineering salaries in Table 1.

Starting salaries follow.

More information - http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm
 
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Kawasaki268F said:
thanks a lot! i don't mean to sound like some greedy person, but I would hate to work hard throughout school like I already have and end up failing...my dad is a dentist and my mom is in medical sales, they make good money, I want to be able to live like them.

You're unlikely to ever make salaries typical for those professions in engineering. You need to find a balance between doing what you love and getting paid what you want. The typical starting salaries for an engineer are the typical starting salaries for an engineer - there is no way to cheat it. If you're an engineer, chances are you'll make $65K/yr without a whole lot of bother - if you're not happy with that, you need to decide if you're so unhappy that you would give up the chance to do engineering.

My experience is in the UK, but senior lecturers in physics (PhDs with many years experience) make about £40-50K. I think it's low compared to other fields and disciplines but hey, thems the tricks. That's just how life works, and there isn't any way around it.
 

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