Good Books on Theoretical Physics for Beginners

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for beginner-friendly books on theoretical physics, including topics such as quantum physics, particle physics, and general relativity. Participants also explore the necessary mathematical background for understanding these subjects, particularly in the context of high school courses.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for accessible books on theoretical physics, expressing a strong interest in the subject.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of a solid mathematical foundation, suggesting that knowledge of calculus and linear algebra is crucial for understanding advanced physics topics.
  • One participant mentions a specific book, "What Is Relativity?" by Landau and Rumer, as a suitable starting point for beginners.
  • Concerns are raised about the participant's current level of math education, with suggestions to consider taking an algebra-based physics course instead of AP Physics C if calculus knowledge is lacking.
  • Some participants share personal experiences regarding their own transitions into AP Calculus and AP Physics, noting varying levels of difficulty and preparedness.
  • There are differing opinions on whether it is feasible to take AP Physics C without a strong calculus background, with some arguing it is manageable while others caution against it.
  • One participant suggests that self-study in calculus could be a viable option for the original poster if they are dedicated.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of a strong mathematical background for understanding theoretical physics, but there are multiple competing views regarding the feasibility of taking AP Physics C without prior calculus knowledge. The discussion remains unresolved on the best approach for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the level of math knowledge required and the potential for self-study, indicating that individual experiences may vary significantly.

haloshade
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Does anybody know of any good and easy to understand books over theoretical fields in physics (i.e. quantum phyiscs, particle physics, general realitivity, etc.)? I'm really interested into reading in on those topics right now, so I would apperciate your help.

Thanks!
 
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Well, in order to understand these subjects, one needs quite much math (at least several variable calculus and linear algebra).

Please give us your current status of mathematical knowledge and we can help you more.

It is a difference to read about these things and to understand them.
 
malawi_glenn said:
Well, in order to understand these subjects, one needs quite much math (at least several variable calculus and linear algebra).

Please give us your current status of mathematical knowledge and we can help you more.

It is a difference to read about these things and to understand them.


Right now I am a junior in high school, I am in Algebra 2, and PreAP Physics. Next year I will be in AP Physics C and PreAP Pre-Calc.

I honestly deeply regret not taking Algebra in 8th grade when I had the chance, and I'm worried that stupid mistake would hold me back from my goals.
 
You are very early in the game, so don't worry about not having the math yet... you haven't even seen real algebra yet, so you can easily catch up.

As for low level but GOOD books on theoretical physics, Landau and Rumer wrote a tiny book on SR called "What Is Relativity?" It would be perfect for your level and a good starting place. It's one of the few that's actually written by brilliant theorists.
 
haloshade said:
Right now I am a junior in high school, I am in Algebra 2, and PreAP Physics. Next year I will be in AP Physics C and PreAP Pre-Calc.

I honestly deeply regret not taking Algebra in 8th grade when I had the chance, and I'm worried that stupid mistake would hold me back from my goals.

Unless you have a good physics teacher who will explain calculus concepts to you, you won't get too far in physics c without knowing some calc knowledge

I suggest that you do a regular algebra-based physics course rather than AP physics c
 
thrill3rnit3 said:
Unless you have a good physics teacher who will explain calculus concepts to you, you won't get too far in physics c without knowing some calc knowledge

I suggest that you do a regular algebra-based physics course rather than AP physics c

Well my teacher has been teaching AP physics C for a while now, this was her only year to take off since nobody last year signed up for it. Plus I'm extremely determind to take this class, so if I have too I will study extra over calculas.
 
If you don't know calculus you'll be lost at times in AP physics C. If the class is available, you'd be better off taking AP physics B (especially if your school doesn't teach trigonometry in algebra 2), otherwise you'll be rushing into calculus wayyy too fast.
 
well he can self study them if he is really dedicated. I jumped straight to AP Calc AB in soph year after taking Alg 2/trig my freshman year.

wasn't that hard of a transition (well maybe that was because my alg 2 teacher was a beast)
 
Maybe it was such a long time ago that I'm forgetting, but I did AP Physics C and AP Calculus for the first time together and it was great. I'm sure it's not that difficult, it's really low level calculus and functional knowledge that I remember being required in Physics C.
 
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yeah you don't even need much calculus in a high school physics course
 
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Being able to pass a high school calculus exam doesn't mean you understand calculus. To do that you need a solid background in algebra and trigonometry plus a lot of hard work. Jumping around quickly through classes might be alright as long as the student understands that they won't really understand the topic until they go back and relearn it the right way (not to be patronizing, it's entirely possible that you know algebra well enough and will work hard enough to understand it the first time, and if you do you'll know it).
 
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qntty said:
Being able to pass a high school calculus exam doesn't mean you understand calculus. To do that you need a solid background in algebra and trigonometry plus a lot of hard work. Jumping around quickly through classes might be alright as long as the student understands that they won't really understand the topic until they go back and relearn it the right way (not to be patronizing, it's entirely possible that you know algebra well enough and will work hard enough to understand it the first time, and if you do you'll know it).

even those kids who get 5's on the BC test don't really understand calculus as well as a college student who learns it, of course. what we're talking about is that he can learn enough calculus himself in order to survive AP physics C, if he's dedicated into doing it.
 

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