Good intermediate introduction of geometry

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding suitable intermediate-level resources for studying Euclidean Geometry. Participants share their experiences with various books and express their needs for materials that include answer keys or solutions to problems.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to improve their geometry foundation and finds Kisselev Geometry lacking due to the absence of an answer key.
  • Another participant suggests Schaum's Outlines as a potential resource, although there is skepticism about its depth compared to other materials.
  • A participant shares a nostalgic view of Schaum's materials, noting their usefulness in the past but also their misalignment with coursework.
  • One participant mentions acquiring "Challenging Problems in Geometry" by Posamentier and Salkind and "Geometry Revisited" by Coxeter and Greitzer, highlighting that both have solutions available.
  • Another participant points out the scarcity of English-language problem books with solutions, contrasting this with the availability of such resources in Russian literature.
  • A suggestion is made for a collection of geometry problems by Prasolov, noted for its challenging content and extensive problem set.
  • One participant recommends a specific book for the NY Regent's Exam, claiming it to be superior to Schaum's.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the usefulness of Schaum's materials, with some finding them too basic while others appreciate their historical significance. There is no consensus on a single recommended resource, as multiple competing views and suggestions are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the limitations of available resources, particularly the lack of answer keys in certain books, which affects their ability to verify solutions and understanding.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals seeking intermediate-level geometry resources, particularly those who value books with answer keys or solutions to problems.

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I am looking for a good intermediate introduction to Euclidean Geometry. I have knowledge of ordinary differential equations (first course), elementary linear algebra, and multivariable calculus. My geometry foundation is rather weak and I would like to improve it.

I purchased Kisselev Geometry which is a very good book. The problem is it is not very good because it lacks an answer key. In my opinion this is a better book used for when one has understanding of geometry and wants to improve what one knows. A bridge between euclidean geometry and non euclidean geometry.
I have worked half way through the book but I can not check my intuition. Often I am left wondering if I truly solved a problem and spend a lot of time thinking through it.

Any suggestions?

Currently not looking for the ELEMENTS (Later I will complete this book).
 
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jedishrfu said:

Thanks for replying Mr Jedi. I am looking for something a bit more "bookish". I have not seen the Schaum's geometry outline, but I have seen the LA/Cal and i thought it was extremely basic. Does the Schaum's Geometry outline also suffer from this? If so you any other recommendations. I would greatly appreciate it.
 
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I like Schaum's in general, although I do remember when I was in school then never quite lined up with my coursework and of course the other problem was we didn't have the internet and we didn't have calculators (adding machines yes, calculators). We did our physics with a slide rule and Shaum's.

The most useful Schaums for physics was the Mathematical Handbook of Formulas and Tables with a gazilion integrals, bessel functions..., and coordinate transforms for every kind of orthogonal coordinate system in use.
 
Thanks Jedi. The librarian at the college ussually saves old books they are replacing ti make room in the library. There happened to be a Schaum's geometry and How to Solve it from Polya in there. She allowed me to take it home. Looking at the book it clear I would give it a 7 out 10. I also purchased a copy of jacobs geometry at the goodwill and I think this will be my primary and Schaum's my secondary.

Thanka
 
Hi MidgetDwarf,

There's "Challenging Problems in Geometry" by Posamentier and Salkind (a cheap Dover) and "Geometry Revisited" by Coxeter and Greitzer. If I'm not mistaken both of them have solutions for everything.

I certainly sympathize with you on the absense of answer keys! For some reason, while many "problem books" (with solutions) have been published in Russian over the years, the same cannot be said for English-language academic/pedagogical literature. While good books in English do exist (e.g. Purcell for E&M and Spivak for single-var. calculus,) one might be hard-pressed indeed to find a resource with a large number of good, challenging problems to work through and then be able to check one's work (but I have come across a few such books, e.g. the ones mentioned above.)

One other book you might consider is the collection of geometry problems by Prasolov. There is a translation from the original Russian here: http://students.imsa.edu/~tliu/Math/planegeo.pdf
(I hope I'm not violating any rules by posting this link! I don't think it's a problem since the Russian original is available on the MCCME website.)

That book has a LOT of problems, many of which are quite challenging (at the olympiad level.) I myself never got that far into it. I thought I'd mention it because there's a claim that the book is "complete" and "encyclopedic," and judging from the size it may very well be as close to "complete" as a book can be.

Oh, and you definitely need a good foundation on the theory before going through any of the above; Kiselev and/or Euclid should be fine for that.
 

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