Good (not elite) School in Boston

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding suitable graduate schools in Boston for experimental condensed matter, AMO, and applied physics, specifically excluding MIT and Harvard. Participants share insights on various universities in the area and express concerns about the size and research opportunities of different programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks recommendations for graduate schools in Boston that are strong in experimental condensed matter and AMO physics, expressing concerns about the size of programs.
  • Another participant suggests using online resources to find universities, implying that the original poster should conduct more independent research.
  • A participant notes that Boston University (BU) and Northeastern University (NEU) are among the largest programs outside of MIT and Harvard, countering the notion that other schools are small.
  • There is a discussion about the relevance of school size for undergraduate versus graduate studies, with one participant emphasizing that undergraduate programs are generally not specialized.
  • Boston College (BC) is mentioned as having a specialization in condensed matter, with most faculty working in that area.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of applying to only one school in the area if the goal is to follow another person, with implications about the low odds of admission.
  • Another participant questions the exclusion of Brandeis and Tufts from the list of potential schools, suggesting that the original poster should consider applying to them as well.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the size and prestige of schools in Boston, with some emphasizing the importance of research opportunities while others focus on the limitations of applying to only one institution. There is no consensus on the best approach to selecting schools or the implications of following another person's application choices.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of considering the specific research interests and the size of the faculty when evaluating programs, while others point out that the original poster's expectations may not align with the realities of the academic landscape in Boston.

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Hello,
I have someone who has a decent chance at gettign into MIT/Harvard that I want to be close (same city preferably) to.I am most interested in experimental condensed matter, AMO, and applied physics. Could anyone give me an idea of the best schools for these in the area that are not MIT or Harvard (which I am not competitive for).

I am aware of Boston College, Boston University, Northeastern, etc. I am not sure of what I want to do in physics though, so am wary of small places that may not have a broad range of research possibilities.

Thanks
 
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Have you tried using google to see what Universities are in Boston and then go to their websites? Seems like that would be the best place to start.
 
Actually I've got access to the department profiles of all the schools with physics PhD programs, curtesy of gradschoolshopper.com, but I was trying to get a feel for what people thought. My impression is that the other schools are smaller than I would like (~ 20 faculty in physics). I wanted to make sure I was not missing something.
 
I don't understand what you are looking for?

BU and Northeastern are the second biggest programs in the area outside MIT and Harvard.

There is not a secret stash of physics professors.

If you extend the distance than Brown might be in range.
 
Oops. I did not realize the size of BU. Thank you.
 
Are you looking to apply for undergraduate or graduate studies?

For undergraduate studies, a school's capabilities in specific fields are not crucial (as compared to graduate studies), because undergraduate physics degrees in the US generally are not specialized.

If a smaller school has significant experimental research, it's most likely to be in condensed matter or AMO, anyway.
 
Apologies, I am looking for graduate schools.
 
Boston College specializes in condensed matter, and most of the physics faculty do work in that field.
 
Your expectations are out of alignment. No department is going to be as big as Harvard's or MIT's in the area. Harvard and MITs departments are among the biggest in the country. The other big schools in the area are BU/BC/NEU like you discerned and those departments are big relative to other schools. Point being if you are looking to match MIT and Harvard in terms of size you arent going to in the area.
 
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BC, BU, and NU are NOT "small" unknown schools. These are prestigious universities! Where do you think Sheldon Glashow go after he left Harvard, for example?

Zz.
 
  • #11
I know that those two are disproportionately large. I was trying to know what the best was after those two for someone with my research interests.

ZapperZ: Thanks, I just saw his name on the list of people at BU. I think BU is where I will apply (based on a number of factors).
 
  • #12
Barabasi who is big in complex networks is at NEU and graduated from BU.
 
  • #13
I don't understand why you only want to apply to one school. Also, this is essentially saying that you aren't interested in Brandeis or Tufts, the only two schools not on your list. If you got into Brandeis and not the other schools would you want to go to Brandeis? If so, you should apply.
 
  • #14
Thanks. I am still considering other schools, but I am getting stretched pretty thin in terms of money and time for more applications. I am looking at programs essentially across the US (some to follow said person). I know that applying to one school in a given area is pretty bad odds for being there, but we will see.
 
  • #15
The odds of you being able to follow a person is near zero if you are going to apply to only one school in an area.

Also is this (person) you are following aware of your intention to follow them?

If this person is that important is aware why arent they trying to limit the schools they apply to make it easier to apply to a list of schools to follow.
 
  • #16
I know the odds are bad. We are applying to some schools together, and schools in the same cities. There are reasons for the spread in locations, partly personal, partly due to bad timing.
 

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