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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical setup of a solar system that could support a life-bearing planet with the same gravity as Earth, a surface area equivalent to that of Jupiter, and a standard 24-hour day/night cycle. Participants explore various theoretical scenarios and constraints related to this concept.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a planet the size of Jupiter made of styrofoam could theoretically maintain Earth-like gravity due to its mass, despite its larger diameter.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of having a planet made of styrofoam or a similarly lightweight material while retaining the necessary mass for Earth-like gravity.
  • There is a proposal regarding the influence of external celestial bodies creating a counter gravitational effect to achieve the desired gravity on the planet.
  • A participant expresses a desire to avoid science fiction elements in their scenario, emphasizing the need for a plausible setup within the bounds of known physics.
  • One participant encourages learning the math of planetary orbits to explore the possibilities further, reiterating the challenge of achieving the desired conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as multiple competing views and theoretical considerations remain unresolved regarding the feasibility of creating such a planet and the implications of its size and composition.

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Limitations include the assumptions about material properties, gravitational effects, and the mathematical modeling of planetary orbits, which are not fully explored or resolved in the discussion.

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How would a solar system need to be set up to provide a life bearing world, standard 1 g, with the surface area of Jupiter with a standard day / night 24 hour cycle?
 
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Oracle1 said:
How would a solar system need to be set up to provide a life bearing world, standard 1 g, with the surface area of Jupiter with a standard day / night 24 hour cycle?
I think that would work if the Earth were the size of Jupiter and made of styrofoam. Since it's mass, not diameter, that determines orbit, the Earth would have the same orbital period and with the mass the same as Earth, but being made of styrofoam (approximately) it would have the surface area of Jupiter.

Of course, it's hard to figure how you could have a planet made of styrofoam or any equivalently weighted matter.
 
What about outside celestial influences creating a constant counter gravitational effect?

All the mass but the desired gravity.
 
Oracle1 said:
What about outside celestial influences creating a constant counter gravitational effect?
what about them?

All the mass but the desired gravity.
OOPS. I forgot to state that of course the gravity on the surface of the styrofoam planet would be way less than on Earth because same mass but much greater diameter
 
Thanks! But darn it, I'm going to have to figure something out! I need this planet to have standard mass and gravity. (though the thought of a Styrofoam planet is amusing.)

I don't really want to Sci Fi this. I'm going to be bending just about every other rule into a pretzel for this story.

My thinking is: if space is infinite with the possibility of infinite variety, then there must be some version of a solar system that could support a planet like this.

I just wanted... NEEDED really, some help figuring out how to set it up.
 
Oracle1 said:
My thinking is: if space is infinite with the possibility of infinite variety, then there must be some version of a solar system that could support a planet like this.
Learn the math of planetary orbits and figure out if one is possible, but a surface the size of Jupiter but gravity same as Earth is going to mean a styrofoam (or equivalent) planet. Period.
 
Well, That seems to put that idea to rest. Thanks for the feedback phinds.
 

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