GPA issue for US graduate school

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of applying to US graduate schools in physics, particularly focusing on the competitiveness of the applicant's GPA and overall profile. Participants explore the implications of academic credentials, research experience, and the selection of appropriate graduate programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • The applicant has a CGPA of 7.991, which converts to a US GPA of 3.64 overall and 3.8 in Physics, and is concerned about its competitiveness for top-tier schools.
  • Some participants suggest that the applicant should aim for lower-ranked schools, citing that the GPA is below average for top institutions and that many successful applicants have publications.
  • There is mention of the equivalency of Indian degrees to US degrees, with some arguing that a 3-year bachelor's degree may not be considered equivalent to a US bachelor's degree.
  • The applicant has research experience and is working towards a publication, which some participants view as a positive factor in their application.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of selecting universities that align with the applicant's research interests and are within reach based on their academic profile.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the competitiveness of the applicant's GPA and the appropriateness of targeting top-tier schools. There is no consensus on the best approach for selecting graduate programs.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the applicant's academic background and research experience may influence perceptions of their qualifications, but there are unresolved questions regarding the equivalency of degrees and the weight of research experience in admissions decisions.

Ravi Mohan
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Hi,

I will be applying to US graduate schools this year (this would be my second attempt). I graduated from an Indian institute, not very well known for physics, and my CGPA (Cumulative Grading Point Average) is 7.991. Using http://www.foreigncredits.com/Resources/GPA-Calculator/India, I found my CGPA conversion to US GPA. It is 3.64 (overall) and 3.8 (Physics). The average CGPA of my batch is 7.5 (or maybe lower) and I rank 3 or 4 in the batch of 15 students (this information is not present on my transcripts). My PGRE score is 940.

I want to work in theoretical physics (foundational quantum mechanics, AdS/CFT and fluid/gravity correspondence). Currently I am doing two research projects in these fields and hope to get good recommendations from well known scientists.

I have gone through the faculty pages of Harvard, Princeton and University of Maryland (and I am looking more schools). I find a considerable overlap between their research and my interests. But I am not sure if my (C)GPA is competitive enough these for schools. Given the other factors (my research experience and LORs) would it be wise to put such schools in my ambitious category? My advisors have collaborations with the faculty of these schools.

I applied to these schools previous year and got rejected. The only improvement in my resume this time is my research experience which might lead to a publication.

Any advice in selecting the graduate schools would be of great help. Thanks.
 
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I think you should probably aim lower. Those are very top schools, but your GPA isn't even average for them and you have no publications. Most students applying to those schools from undergrad are already published. And many US grad schools don't consider a 3-year bachelors from India equivalent to a US bachelors in the first place; everyone I knew from India starting a PhD in the US had a masters from India (and were starting over with a masters in the US).
 
I forgot to mention that I graduated with Integrated Masters in physics (5 year program).

eri said:
I think you should probably aim lower.
Naming few of them will give an idea of schools I should target. Thank you.
 
WES recognizes Indian 3-year Bachelor’s degrees as equivalent to U.S. Bachelor’s degrees if they've been earned in Division 1 and the institution has been accredited by NAAC with a grade of A.

As said before, you can apply to some top tier universities, but you shouldn't count on being accepted. Your GPA is below average compared to most applicants to those universities. Your research experience seems pretty good, especially if it leads to a publication. You should search for universities that are within your reach and portray your research interest pretty well.
 

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