GPE Between the Moon and the Earth?

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The discussion focuses on calculating gravitational potential energy (GPE) between the Earth and the Moon. The standard formula mgh is applicable only near the Earth's surface and not for the Earth-Moon system, where Newton’s expression for gravitational potential must be used. The correct formula for gravitational potential energy is -GMm/R, where R is the distance between the centers of the Earth and the Moon. Participants clarified that R should not be squared in the potential energy calculation, as squaring R pertains to gravitational force, not energy.

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Homework Statement


How to determine GPE between moon and earth?

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I know that gpe near Earth's surface is mgh, but at larger distances is there a specific way to calculate?
 
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You can only use mgh when your gravitational field can be well approximated by a homogeneous one. This is not the case for the Earth-Moon system. You need to use Newton’s expression for the gravitational potential.
 
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Orodruin said:
You can only use mgh when your gravitational field can be well approximated by a homogeneous one. This is not the case for the Earth-Moon system. You need to use Newton’s expression for the gravitational potential.
so -(GMm/R^2) = Gravitational energy
so i will need the R to be sqrt(x^2+y^2) with the Earth centered at 0,0
Energy mechaninc will be the kinetic from the moon plus the gravitational energy at each time dt
also the velocity will be sqrt(x^2+y^2)
 
That's a lot of energy
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I have my Earth at 0,0 so the kinetic energy from Earth is 0, kinetic energy of moon is .5mv^2 and potential energy is -GMm/R^2 and that is all of the energies i can think of. do those energy values look about right? id love to go to sleep so tired
 

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isukatphysics69 said:
so -(GMm/R^2) = Gravitational energy
No, you don't square the R in the denominator when calculating gravitational PE. When you do square it you're calculating the gravitational force instead (Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation).
 
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