Grade 11 Physics: Spring Constant & Elevator Acceleration Problem

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The problem involves a spring attached to the ceiling of an elevator with a mass hanging from it. The original poster seeks to determine the spring constant and how far the spring would stretch when the elevator accelerates upwards.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the spring constant and the forces acting on the spring when the elevator accelerates. There is a focus on understanding how the forces of gravity and elevator acceleration interact with the spring's behavior.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights into the forces involved. There is a recognition of the complexity of the situation, particularly regarding the direction of forces when the elevator accelerates. No explicit consensus has been reached, but there is a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the effects of acceleration on perceived weight and the spring's response. The original poster has expressed uncertainty about the next steps in solving part B of the problem.

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Suppose a spring is attached vertically to the ceiling of an elevator. When a 5.00Kg mass is attached to the spring, it descends a distance of 25.5 cm.

a) what is the spring constant of the spring?

I found out that it was 192 N/m, so my problem is with part B!

b) how far would the spring stretch if the elevator were accelerating up at a rate of 3.50 m/s2?

I just want to know what I should do, because I don't know! Thanks!
 
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so the work I did in order to determine the spring constant is as follows:

F=KX

K=F/X=mg/x=(5.00kg)(9.81m/s2)/0.255m=192N/m

I don't understand part b though!
 
The spring is now counteracting gravity as well as the acceleration of the elevator away from the mass.So the total force is

[itex] F_{total} = m(g + a_{elevator})[/itex]
set this equal to the equation of how the spring reacts to a force
[itex] F_{total} = KX[/itex]

and you'll have your distance
 
thanks, but for the Ftotal, wouldn't it be equal to m(g-aelevator) since it is going opposed to it?
 
np man, happy to help!

since the elevator is going up and away from the mass it will additionally stretch the spring

It's one of those things that you have to work your head around. If you are in an elevator and it goes up you are heavier as it accelerates.

As you go down in an elevator you are lighter (you feel your stomach go up a little).

So if the elevator was going down the acceleration would be negative.
 
alright, I understand! Thanks for the help!
 

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