Graduate Program in QM: Researching Foundations of Quantum Mechanics

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The discussion centers around identifying strong graduate programs for researching the foundations of quantum mechanics, exploring various aspects of the field including interpretations, mathematical frameworks, and alternative approaches to quantum theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the premise that the foundations of quantum mechanics are well established, suggesting that ongoing research exists in areas like interpretations and mathematical frameworks.
  • Others highlight that discussions in the forum often revolve around interpretations of quantum mechanics, which are considered part of its foundational study.
  • Some participants propose that there are additional foundational topics beyond interpretations, such as projective geometry and C*-algebraic approaches to quantum theory.
  • A participant expresses interest in references for foundational topics, indicating a desire for further reading on projective geometry and C*-algebras in quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant shares their background in string theory and various mathematical concepts, indicating their readiness to engage with advanced texts on quantum foundations.
  • Discussion includes specific recommendations for books that cover C*-algebras and quantum logic, emphasizing the importance of prior knowledge in quantum mechanics and mathematics.
  • There is mention of the Gelfand-Naimark-Segal construction as a way to derive traditional quantum mechanics from a C*-algebraic perspective.
  • Participants express curiosity about the implications of these approaches in contexts like conformal field theories (CFTs) and state-operator correspondence.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the foundations of quantum mechanics are well established, with multiple competing views on the nature and scope of ongoing research in the field.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of what constitutes the "foundations" of quantum mechanics, and the discussion reflects a range of assumptions about participants' familiarity with advanced mathematical concepts.

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What are strong graduate programs for researching foundations of quantum mechanics?
 
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What do you mean? The foundations of quantum mechanics are pretty well established. Do you mean quantum field theory? String theory?
 
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Dishsoap said:
What do you mean? The foundations of quantum mechanics are pretty well established.

The foundations of mathematics or of GR are very well established too. But there is still research on those things.
 
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Dishsoap said:
What do you mean?
The stuff people argue about incessantly in our Quantum Physics forum? :rolleyes: (Interpretations; Bell's Theorem and related things)
 
jtbell said:
The stuff people argue about incessantly in our Quantum Physics forum? :rolleyes:

Those silly discussions are about interpretations, which is foundations too of course. But there is other stuff. For example, you can do projective geometry and its relation to quantum mechanics, or you can do the C*-algebraic approach to quantum theory. Those are all very interesting foundational stuff that don't go into interpretations.
 
micromass said:
Those silly discussions are about interpretations, which is foundations too of course. But there is other stuff. For example, you can do projective geometry and its relation to quantum mechanics, or you can do the C*-algebraic approach to quantum theory. Those are all very interesting foundational stuff that don't go into interpretations.
I would love to read about such notions. Although google might help me out, but what references do you recommend?
 
Ravi Mohan said:
I would love to read about such notions. Although google might help me out, but what references do you recommend?

First I need to tell you that before reading such books, you should be acquainted with QM already, and also with the mathematics. Anyway, as an introduction, there are two very good books with surprisingly little overlap, so they're both important:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/9812835229/?tag=pfamazon01-20 This deals with C*-algebras and a bit of quantum logic.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1489993622/?tag=pfamazon01-20 Very good book from an operator theory perspective.

Then there's also Varadarajan for the link with projective geometry. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0387493859/?tag=pfamazon01-20

If you tell me the math and physics you're comfortable with, I might be able to give you a quick introductin to thee books.
 
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micromass said:
If you tell me the math and physics you're comfortable with, I might be able to give you a quick introductin to thee books.
(Sorry for hijacking but I really find this interesting). I am a graduate student at UT Austin and my field of research is String Theory. In mathematics, I am quite familiar with rigged Hilbert Space formalism, differential geometry, topology and algebra. In physics I am comfortable with quantum mechanics, quantum field theory and general relativity (coordinate dependent/independent formalisms). I have taken graduate courses in physics topics I mentioned.

I have research experience in quantum information and algorithms (if that helps). Currently, I am also learning tensor networks and emerging spacetime geometry.
 
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Ravi Mohan said:
(Sorry for hijacking but I really find this interesting). I am a graduate student at UT Austin and my field of research is String Theory. In mathematics, I am quite familiar with rigged Hilbert Space formalism, differential geometry, topology and algebra. In physics I am comfortable with quantum mechanics (had 2 graduate courses in it), quantum field theory and general relativity (coordinate dependent/independent formalisms).

Cool! You should have no problems with the books then. The books don't do the rigged Hilbert space formalism though, although it is the best formalism for QM.

Anyway, Strocchi starts off immediately with the C*-algebraic approach. The idea is to make operators/observables the primary object of QM, and not the states. This results in a very natural approach to quantum mechanics. You basically see that QM is the exact same thing as classical mechanics, but only "made noncommutative". The usual Hilbert space formalism (and the rigged Hilbert space formalism actually) can be derived from the more natural C*-algebraic formalism. This is known as the Gelfand-Naimark-Segal construction.

As for quantum logic. The idea is that observables in QM are measurable functions to the Borel sigma-algebra of the reals. Quantum logic then approaches the subject by replacing this measurable function/sigma algebra by a more general structure. This structure essentially is projective geometry, which is quite surprising.

In Hall, quantum mechanics is derived from scratch but rigorously. Functional analysis is applied rigorously to the theory.
 
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micromass said:
Anyway, Strocchi starts off immediately with the C*-algebraic approach. The idea is to make operators/observables the primary object of QM, and not the states. This results in a very natural approach to quantum mechanics. You basically see that QM is the exact same thing as classical mechanics, but only "made noncommutative". The usual Hilbert space formalism (and the rigged Hilbert space formalism actually) can be derived from the more natural C*-algebraic formalism. This is known as the Gelfand-Naimark-Segal construction.

Interesting. I wonder how it pans out in CFTs where we have state-operator correspondence.

micromass said:
As for quantum logic. The idea is that observables in QM are measurable functions to the Borel sigma-algebra of the reals. Quantum logic then approaches the subject by replacing this measurable function/sigma algebra by a more general structure. This structure essentially is projective geometry, which is quite surprising.

In Hall, quantum mechanics is derived from scratch but rigorously. Functional analysis is applied rigorously to the theory.

Again, seems interesting. I will certainly try to read these texts. Thank you very much.
 

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