Graph the surface represented by the vector valued function

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The discussion revolves around a vector-valued function defined as r(u,v)=2ucosv i + 2usinv j + u^4, with specified ranges for u and v. Participants are exploring the relationship between the parameters and the resulting surface, particularly focusing on the equation z=(x^2+y^2)^2/16.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to express z in terms of x and y, questioning how to eliminate variables and relate the parameters. There are discussions about the implications of substituting u for z and the resulting transformations of the equations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some have offered guidance on manipulating the equations, while others are clarifying their interpretations of the relationships between the variables.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern regarding the complexity of the equations and the potential for confusion in variable substitution. Participants are also grappling with the implications of the original function's parameters on the derived equations.

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Homework Statement


r(u,v)=2ucosv i + 2usinv j + u^4
0<=u<=1
0<=v<=2pi


Homework Equations


don't care about the graph as much as how the book got to the answer equation
z=(x^2+y^2)^2/16


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b
cosu=x/2v sinu=y/2v cosu^2+sinu2=1 (x/2u)^2+(y/2u)^2=1 x^2+y^2=(4)^2
(x^2+y^2)=(4z)^2 (x^2+y^2)/16=z^2 z=sqrt((x^2+y^2)/16)
Why isn't the final answer z=sqrt...
 
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stevecallaway said:

Homework Statement


r(u,v)=2ucosv i + 2usinv j + u^4
0<=u<=1
0<=v<=2pi


Homework Equations


don't care about the graph as much as how the book got to the answer equation
z=(x^2+y^2)^2/16


The Attempt at a Solution


x=2ucosv y=2usinv z=u^4
since u is in all three different parts of the equation, we can't get rid of a variable, then that is why the answer equation is "z="?
Does x=the differentiation of y? Or can we factor out the 2u leaving 2u(cosv i + sinv j)?

x=2ucosv
y=2usinv
z=u^4

try substituting x & y into the equation
z=(x^2+y^2)^2/16
and see what you get
 
What is x^2+y^2 in terms of u?
 
I was in the middle of editing when you two responded, will you please re-look at my attempt at a solution?
 
stevecallaway said:
I was in the middle of editing when you two responded, will you please re-look at my attempt at a solution?

It's pretty garbled. But I'm with you through x^2+y^2=16*u^2, which is what I hope you meant to write. Then did you just put u=z? What did you do?
 
Sorry about the garbled-ness. I thought I put more spaces in between the equations. Yes, I did substitute u=z and then I dividev both sides by 16 to get (x^2+y^2)/16=z^2. Then I took the sqrt of both sides which would give z=sqrt((x^2+y^2)/16) but the book gives an answer of z=(x^2+y^2)^2/16
 
stevecallaway said:
Sorry about the garbled-ness. I thought I put more spaces in between the equations. Yes, I did substitute u=z and then I dividev both sides by 16 to get (x^2+y^2)/16=z^2. Then I took the sqrt of both sides which would give z=sqrt((x^2+y^2)/16) but the book gives an answer of z=(x^2+y^2)^2/16

But you can't put u=z! z=u^4. What does that make u^2?
 
u^2=sqrt(z)...got it. Brilliant. Thanks.
 

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