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The discussion focuses on the discrepancies between manual calculations and Maple's output for discrete integration using the formula \sum_{x_0}^{x_1}f(x)\Delta x with \Delta x = 1. The user calculated the sum from 1 to 4 for x^2 and obtained 14, while Maple computed it as 30. The difference arises from the interpretation of the summation limits and the values included in the sum. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding discrete calculus notation and the implications of step size in summation.

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Graphic Interpretation for Ʃf(x)Δx

Hello!

I was trying to understand what means:
[tex]\sum_{x_0}^{x_1}f(x)\Delta x[/tex]
(when Δx = 1 and x ∈ Z, ie, a "discrete integration", topic very comun in discrete calculus).

I computed the result so:
[tex]\sum_{1}^{4}x^2\Delta x=\left [\frac{1}{3}x^3-\frac{1}{2}x^2+\frac{1}{6}x \right ]_{1}^{4}=F(4)-F(1)=14[/tex]
and I sketched the graphic:
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However, the Maple computes the result as:
[tex]\sum_{1}^{4}x^2\Delta x=>\sum_{1}^{4}x^2\cdot 1=>\sum_{1}^{4}x^2=30[/tex]
Given a different result of calculated for me. Why?
 
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Maple is calculating the sum following the conventional rules of notation for ##\sum_1^4##, i.e. the sum is 1 + 4 + 9 + 16 = 30.

In discrete calculus you are only summing 3 items, not 4. That is why you got 1 + 4 + 9 = 14.

Maybe there is an option in Maple to use discrete calculus notation, but I don't know about that.
 
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Jhenrique said:
Hello!

I was trying to understand what means:
[tex]\sum_{x_0}^{x_1}f(x)\Delta x[/tex]
(when Δx = 1 and x ∈ Z, ie, a "discrete integration", topic very comun in discrete calculus).
This is not a very good notation! It says you are summing from [itex]x_0[/itex] to [itex]x_1[/itex] but does NOT say what step you are using- what [itex]\Delt x[/itex is.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I computed the result so:<br /> [tex]\sum_{1}^{4}x^2\Delta x=\left [\frac{1}{3}x^3-\frac{1}{2}x^2+\frac{1}{6}x \right ]_{1}^{4}=F(4)-F(1)=14[/tex] </div> </div> </blockquote> You appear to be assuming that [itex]x_0= 1[/itex] and [itex]x_1= 4[/itex[ are the only values used- that is, that [itex]\Delta x= 4- 1= 3. But this is a <b>sum</b>, not a difference. It is [itex](1)^2(3)+ (2)^2+ 3= 3+ 12= 15[/itex].<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> and I sketched the graphic:<br /> <div class="bbImageWrapper js-lbImage" title="imagem.jpg" data-src="https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/imagem-jpg.166287/" data-lb-sidebar-href="" data-lb-caption-extra-html="" data-single-image="1"> <img src="https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/imagem-jpg.166287/" data-url="" class="bbImage" data-zoom-target="1" style="" alt="imagem.jpg" title="imagem.jpg" width="112" height="180" loading="lazy" decoding="async" /> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> That graphic shows you using [itex]\Delta x= 1[/itex], so that x takes on values of 1, 2, and 3:<br /> [itex]1^2(1)+ 2^2(1)+ 3^2(1)= 1+ 4+ 9= 14[/itex]<br /> <br /> However, the Maple computes the result as:<br /> [tex]\sum_{1}^{4}x^2\Delta x=>\sum_{1}^{4}x^2\cdot 1=>\sum_{1}^{4}x^2=30[/tex]<br /> Given a different result of calculated for me. Why?[/QUOTE]<br /> That sum would NOT approximate the integral from 1 to 4 because it includes a "rectangle" between x= 4 and x= 5: 1+ 4+ 9+ 16= 30.[/itex][/itex][/itex]
 

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