Gravitational Force of a Point Particle Between Two Spherical Shells

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational force exerted on a spherical shell by a point particle located between two spherical shells. The problem involves understanding the implications of Gauss's law in this context and the behavior of gravitational forces within and outside spherical shells.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of Gauss's law to determine the gravitational force from a spherical shell and question how to approach the scenario of a point particle located between two shells. There is discussion about the implications of being inside versus outside the shell and the relevance of density and volume in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants questioning assumptions about gravitational forces in different regions relative to the shells. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of density and volume, but clarity on the correct approach remains to be established.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of gravitational interactions in a multi-shell system, with specific attention to the conditions under which different gravitational principles apply. There is a lack of consensus on the correct method to apply in this scenario.

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Homework Statement


A spherical shell has inner radius R1, outer radius R2, and mass M, distributed uniformly
throughout the shell. The magnitude of the gravitational force exerted on the shell by a point
particle of mass m located a distance d from the center, outside the inner radius and inside the
outer radius, is

Homework Equations


F = -GMm/r^2



The Attempt at a Solution


I know that from gauss's law that the force from a spherical shell would have the same gravitational force as one from a point particle. How would you find the gravitational force of a particle located between two shells though?
 
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Ishida52134 said:
I know that from gauss's law that the force from a spherical shell would have the same gravitational force as one from a point particle.
That's only true for points outside the shell. What is the force on a particle entirely inside the shell?
 
0. Oh do you just find the force and use density = m/v to substitute m with pv.
Then v = 4/3 pi r^3. Then u just subtract the total volume of the sphere by the volume of the sphere with distance d < the particle.
 
Ishida52134 said:
0. Oh do you just find the force and use density = m/v to substitute m with pv.
Then v = 4/3 pi r^3. Then u just subtract the total volume of the sphere by the volume of the sphere with distance d < the particle.
I'm not completely sure what you are saying there, but it doesn't sound quite right.
Think of the given shell annulus as made up of two shell annuli: one with outer radius d and one with inner radius d.
 

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