Gravitational mass vs inertial mass

In summary, Sean Carroll's lecture book discusses the concept of a "gravitation atom" and how its intertial mass would differ from its gravitational mass if gravitation did not couple to itself. Without self-coupling, the gravitational mass of the whole would simply be the sum of the gravitational masses of its components, similar to how charge works in electrodynamics. However, it is clear that the energy of the whole is not just the sum of the energies of its individual components, as it would require work to overcome the gravitational binding. This raises questions about the identification of inertial mass with energy.
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In Sean Carroll's lecture book is written:

"... if gravitation did not couple to itself, a "gravitation atom" (two particles bounded by their mutual gravitational attraction) would have a different intertial mass (due to negative binding energy) than gravitational mass..."

Would you please clarify why? or which mass would be bigger ?
 
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"Without self-coupling", the gravitational mass of the whole would be only the sum of the gravitational masses of the components (which is exactly how charge works in electrodynamics). However, it is obvious (since it would take work to overcome the gravitational binding) that the energy of the whole is not just the sum of the quantities of energy that the components possesses separately. Could it be that you're asking why inertial mass is identified with energy?
 
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The concept of gravitational mass and inertial mass can be confusing, but they refer to two different aspects of an object's mass. Gravitational mass is a measure of how much an object is affected by the force of gravity, while inertial mass is a measure of an object's resistance to changes in its motion. In other words, gravitational mass is related to the strength of an object's gravitational pull, while inertial mass is related to its momentum and how difficult it is to change that momentum.

In the quote from Sean Carroll's lecture book, he is discussing the hypothetical scenario of a "gravitation atom," which is a system of two particles bound together by their mutual gravitational attraction. In this scenario, the two particles would have a negative binding energy, meaning that they are held together by the attractive force of gravity rather than a traditional binding force like electromagnetism.

Carroll is pointing out that in this scenario, the two particles would have different values for their gravitational and inertial masses. This is because the force of gravity, which is responsible for binding the particles together, is also a source of acceleration. In other words, gravity is not just a force that pulls objects towards each other, but it also causes them to accelerate towards each other. This acceleration contributes to an object's inertial mass, meaning that the two particles in the "gravitation atom" would have a larger inertial mass due to their mutual gravitational attraction.

In terms of which mass would be bigger, it is difficult to say without more information about the specific scenario. However, in general, the inertial mass of the particles in the "gravitation atom" would be larger than their gravitational mass due to the contribution of the gravitational force to their acceleration. This is a unique aspect of gravity, as other forces do not contribute to an object's inertial mass in the same way.
 

What is the difference between gravitational mass and inertial mass?

Gravitational mass refers to the measure of an object's response to the force of gravity, while inertial mass refers to the measure of an object's resistance to changes in motion.

Why are gravitational mass and inertial mass considered to be equal?

According to the Principle of Equivalence in Einstein's theory of General Relativity, gravitational mass and inertial mass are considered to be equal because they both determine an object's response to gravity.

How do scientists measure gravitational mass and inertial mass?

Gravitational mass is typically measured through the gravitational force between two objects, while inertial mass is measured through an object's acceleration in response to a known force, such as gravity.

Why is the concept of gravitational mass vs inertial mass important in physics?

This concept is important because it helps us understand the fundamental principles of gravity and motion, and how they are interconnected. It also plays a crucial role in theories such as General Relativity and the Standard Model of particle physics.

Is there any difference in the values of gravitational mass and inertial mass for different objects?

In classical mechanics, both masses are considered to be constant and independent of the object's size, shape, or composition. However, in some theories, such as Modified Newtonian Dynamics, there may be a slight difference in the values for certain objects, which could potentially explain observed phenomena such as the rotation curves of galaxies.

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