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Gravitational Potential Energy child swing Problem

  1. Feb 24, 2009 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    A 140-N child is in a swing that is attached to ropes 2.00 m long. Find the gravitational potential energy associated with the child relative to her lowest position at the following times.

    (a) when the ropes are horizontal

    I get this one. I used PE=mgy; PE=(140-N)(2.00 m)= 280 J

    However, I'm unsure how to approach part B, so if someone could just nudge me in the right direction I would really appreciate it (you certainly don't have to work it out--I'm not asking you to do my work).

    (b) when the ropes make a 25.0° angle with the vertical
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  3. Feb 24, 2009 #2


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    Sketch the rope, the angle and the height. Use trigonometry to find the height. Then use mgy again.
  4. Feb 24, 2009 #3
    Use trig to find the height of the child above the ground, using this number as variable "y" in the PE formula.

    Think right triangles.
  5. Feb 24, 2009 #4
    T.T i don't understand this at all.

    I drew a whole lot of right triangles solving for a h and o using 90 degrees and 25 degrees and 65 degrees (basically everything I can think of) and get small numbers such as 2.21 and when I add that in that gives you a.. LOT of joules which is nonsensical.
  6. Feb 24, 2009 #5


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    Certainly the height has to be less than 2 meters!

    Show the swing rope at an angle of 25 degrees from vertical.
    Draw a vertical line down from where the ropes are held at the top.
    Draw a horizontal line across from the bottom of the child to the vertical line.
    Now you have a right triangle with a 25 degree angle in it. You know the length of one side. You should be able to find the height . . .
  7. Feb 24, 2009 #6
    Even if I do 2.00m*cos25 degress it comes out as 1.81 m.

    If I plug that into my 140 N * (1.81 m) = 153 which is far too large. It must be much less and that is what I'm failing to understand.
  8. Feb 24, 2009 #7


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    Oops - I forgot about something!
    Your 1.81 m is the vertical distance from the top of the swing down to the child. The height above the ground will be 2 - 1.81.
  9. Feb 24, 2009 #8

    Thank you so much for your help.
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