Gravitational potential energy, orbital speed, binding energy.

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The discussion revolves around a satellite's gravitational potential energy, orbital speed, and binding energy while in orbit around the Earth. The problem involves calculations related to gravitational forces and energy concepts in astrophysics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the gravitational potential energy formula and its application to the satellite's orbit. There is a discussion on using the equivalence of gravitational and centripetal forces as a more fundamental approach to determine orbital speed. Questions arise regarding the definition and calculation of binding energy, particularly whether it accounts for kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, questioning assumptions, and exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between gravitational and centripetal forces, and the role of kinetic energy in binding energy calculations is being examined.

Contextual Notes

There is some uncertainty regarding the definitions and calculations of binding energy and its relationship with kinetic energy. The original poster's calculations are based on specific formulas, but there is a lack of consensus on the best approach to take.

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Homework Statement


a satellite having a mass of 1800 kg orbits the Earth at a distance of 6.3 x 10^5 m above the surface find the gravitational potential energy of the satellite while in orbit, the orbital speed and the binding satellite.

The Attempt at a Solution



gravitational potential energy
Eg = -GMm/Ro
Eg = -(6.67x10^-11 Nm^2/kg^2)(5.98x10^24kg)(1800kg)/(6.37x10^6m)+(6.3x10^5m)
Eg = -1.03 x 10^11 J

the orbital speed

Ek = 1/2(GMm/Ro)
Ek = 0.5 x -1.03 x 10^11 J
Ek = 5.128277145 x 10^10 J

Ek = 1/2mv^2
V = 7548.57 m/s

binding satellite
Eb = 1/2(GMm/Ro)
Eb = 0.5 x -1.03 x 10^11 J
Eb = 5.128277145 x 10^10 J
 
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Lolagoeslala said:
the orbital speed
Ek = 1/2(GMm/Ro)
Whilst that is true, I would prefer to use the equivalence of the gravitational force and the centripetal force required to maintain the orbit. That seems to me to be a more fundamental principle.
binding satellite
Eb = 1/2(GMm/Ro)
I'm not sure about that. Does binding energy take into account the KE? Maybe it does.
 
haruspex said:
Whilst that is true, I would prefer to use the equivalence of the gravitational force and the centripetal force required to maintain the orbit. That seems to me to be a more fundamental principle.

I'm not sure about that. Does binding energy take into account the KE? Maybe it does.
You mean like this

m(v^2/Ro) = GMm/Ro^2 ?

Well binding energy is the energy required for the orbiting satellite to escape. So the total energy should be zero...

Well yes Ek is included...

Eg + Ek = Et1
- GMm/Ro + 1/2GMm/Ro = - 1/2 GMm/Ro

Et1 + Eb = Et2
- 1/2 GMm/Ro + Eb = 0 J
Eb = 1/2 GMm/Ro
 
Lolagoeslala said:
You mean like this

m(v^2/Ro) = GMm/Ro^2 ?
Yes.
Well binding energy is the energy required for the orbiting satellite to escape. So the total energy should be zero...

Well yes Ek is included...
OK.
 

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