Gravity and superpostion of two spheres

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The problem involves gravitational forces between a hollowed-out lead sphere and a small sphere, focusing on the implications of mass distribution and density calculations. The context is set in gravitational physics, specifically dealing with the superposition of forces and the effects of hollow objects on gravitational attraction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the mass of the hollowed-out sphere and its inconsistency with the given dimensions and density of lead. There are attempts to clarify the calculations of volume and density, as well as questions about the correct approach to determining the gravitational force between the spheres.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding mass and density. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the forces acting on the small sphere and the hollowed-out sphere, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants note potential issues with the provided mass and density of the lead sphere, suggesting that the calculations may need to be revisited. There is also mention of difficulties with calculator usage, which may impact the accuracy of the calculations being discussed.

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The figure shows a spherical hollow inside a lead sphere of radius R = 4.6 m; the surface of the hollow passes through the center of the sphere and “touches” the right side of the sphere. The mass of the sphere before hollowing was M = 245 kg. With what gravitational force does the hollowed-out lead sphere attract a small sphere of mass m = 20 kg that lies at a distance d = 14 m from the center of the lead sphere, on the straight line connecting the centers of the spheres and of the hollow?
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when i find the mass of the "hollowed out" sphere its much larger than the larger sphere. I don't know how else to approach this problem.
 
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The mass of the sphere is inconsistent with its given diameter and the density of lead. I would ignore the given "lead" and calculate the density based on the given size and mass.
 
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mfb said:
The mass of the sphere is inconsistent with its given diameter and the density of lead. I would ignore the given "lead" and calculate the density based on the given size and mass.
I updated my original photo with my calculations. Would the total force be the force of the full sphere minus the force of the "hollow" sphere? F=F1-F2? I got the wrong answer not sure where i went wrong.
 
Your volume and density calculations don't look right to me. Can you recheck them?
 
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gneill said:
Your volume and density calculations don't look right to me. Can you recheck them?
Thank you! I am having problem getting adjusted to an hp 300s+, I often have to double check its picking up all the buttons i press.
 
J-dizzal said:
I updated my original photo with my calculations. Would the total force be the force of the full sphere minus the force of the "hollow" sphere? F=F1-F2?
Right (if you take both F1 and F2 to be positive).
A quick check: is your mass ratio 1 to 8?
The ratio of forces should be a bit smaller than that (1 to 7.something or 6.something) as the smaller sphere is a bit closer. If that is not true, something is wrong.
 

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