Electric field of a sphere in a point A

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field of a completely hollow sphere with a given radius and surface charge density at a specific point A, which may be inside or outside the sphere. The original poster is attempting to integrate the electric field contributions from infinitesimal rings that make up the sphere.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration of the electric field from rings, with the original poster noting difficulties in achieving the correct result. There are questions about the location of point A and the limits of integration, as well as suggestions to reconsider the approach to integration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration limits and the need to clarify the position of point A. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are still working through the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original poster's uncertainty about the integration limits and the need to derive results for both cases of point A being inside or outside the sphere. The original poster also expresses difficulty with formatting their work in LaTeX.

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My first homework for electrostatics course I'm taking is to find the vector of electric field of a completely hollow sphere (radius r, surface charge density σ in a point A, by integrating the electric field through the whole sphere. I already figured out the electric field of a ring in a point on the axis perpendicular to the plane of the ring and passing through its center and I'm supposed to use that. I basically know how I'm supposed to integrate it but I can't seem to get it to work.

Anybody care to help?
 
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not_waving said:
I basically know how I'm supposed to integrate it but I can't seem to get it to work.
Why? Show us your work.
 
Okay, so firstly i know the electric field of a ring anywhere on the z axis (1). I divide the sphere into infinitesimal rings, each occupying dtheta of the sphere, to get (2). Plugging in into electric field equation and integrating I get zero, which is true but only inside the sphere. However, the point I'm calculating the electric field in isn't necessarily in the sphere so it's wrong. I'm not good with LATEX so here's some pictures that outline my thoughts

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not_waving said:
My first homework for electrostatics course I'm taking is to find the vector of electric field of a completely hollow sphere (radius r, surface charge density σ in a point A, by integrating the electric field through the whole sphere. I already figured out the electric field of a ring in a point on the axis perpendicular to the plane of the ring and passing through its center and I'm supposed to use that. I basically know how I'm supposed to integrate it but I can't seem to get it to work.

Anybody care to help?
is A inside or ouside the shell?
 
rude man said:
is A inside or ouside the shell?
I'm supposed to derive both cases. I'd edit my first post to match the template but I don't know where's the edit button so my attempt at a solution is the second post.
 
Okay I figured I messed up my integration limits, they should be 0 and pi. Though, I still don't get the desired result.
 
not_waving said:
Okay I figured I messed up my integration limits, they should be 0 and pi. Though, I still don't get the desired result.
Since you already know what the axial E field is for a ring, I would suggest the integration is over a distance, not an angle - the distance from the center of each ring to M.
 

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