Gravity at an arbitrary location near a disc

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational acceleration at an arbitrary location due to a disc characterized by its thickness, radius, and density. The problem involves understanding how gravity behaves in relation to the disc's geometry and mass distribution.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss defining the distance in terms of vector magnitude and consider using volume integrals. There is mention of leveraging symmetry to simplify the problem. Some participants suggest analyzing the problem in two cases: outside and inside the disc, while questioning the differences in gravitational acceleration at various points relative to the disc.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the gravitational field around the disc. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of the disc as a point source for cases outside the disc, but there is no consensus on the implications of this for points along the axis versus at the edge of the disc.

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Participants assume that the density and thickness of the disc are constant. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity introduced by the geometry of the disc, particularly in distinguishing between cases inside and outside the disc.

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Homework Statement



calculate the gravity acceleration at an arbitrary location due to a disc of thickness h, radius r and density p

Homework Equations



g=Gm/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



define r in terms of the vector magnitude from the measurement point to some point on the disc, then hit it with a volume integral? Is there an easier way, say using symmetry?
 
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bumpkin said:

Homework Statement



calculate the gravity acceleration at an arbitrary location due to a disc of thickness h, radius r and density p

Homework Equations



g=Gm/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



define r in terms of the vector magnitude from the measurement point to some point on the disc, then hit it with a volume integral? Is there an easier way, say using symmetry?
Welcome to Physics Forums.

I'm assuming that rho and h are constant.

It may well be easier to tackle this problem in two separate cases: (a) When the point of interest is outside the body; and (b) when the point of interest is inside the body. For the former case, the gravitational field of the disc is identical to that of a point source of equivalent mass, located at the centre of the disc.
 
Hootenanny said:
Welcome to Physics Forums.

I'm assuming that rho and h are constant.

It may well be easier to tackle this problem in two separate cases: (a) When the point of interest is outside the body; and (b) when the point of interest is inside the body. For the former case, the gravitational field of the disc is identical to that of a point source of equivalent mass, located at the centre of the disc.

rho and h are constant. I hadn't even thought of b. But for a, I would assume the acceleration at the edge of the disc would be different to the gravity long the axis of the disc? Ie if the disc was in the xy plane, the gravity at (r,0,h) would be different to (0,0,sqrt(r^2+h^2))?
 
Hootenanny said:
For the former case, the gravitational field of the disc is identical to that of a point source of equivalent mass, located at the centre of the disc.
That would be true for a uniform sphere, but not for a disk.
 
bumpkin said:
rho and h are constant. I hadn't even thought of b. But for a, I would assume the acceleration at the edge of the disc would be different to the gravity long the axis of the disc? Ie if the disc was in the xy plane, the gravity at (r,0,h) would be different to (0,0,sqrt(r^2+h^2))?
Oh, sorry. I assumed that you were working in 2D, in the plane of the disc. My bad.

The best option then is to transform into cylindrical coordinates. Apologies for the confusion.
 

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