Gravity exerted by a fast moving object versus stationary object?

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In the discussion on gravity exerted by moving versus stationary objects, it is established that a moving mass can generate "more gravity" than a stationary one due to relativistic effects, specifically referencing the Olson-Guarino paper which suggests an increase by a factor of two. The conversation highlights the complexities of defining "more gravity," especially considering factors like time dilation and the non-spherical symmetry of the gravitational field of a moving object. Participants also explore the implications of these concepts through examples like Mercury's perihelion precession, suggesting that its trajectory could be influenced by the increasing velocity and mass of the planet. However, caution is advised against oversimplified interpretations, emphasizing that the mathematics of general relativity provides a more accurate explanation. Overall, the discussion underscores the intricate relationship between mass, velocity, and gravitational effects in relativistic contexts.
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jartsa said:
When approaching:
Objects gain momentum towards each other.

When the light has disappeared:

The momentum of the black hole =
The momentum of the black hole at time t + the momentum of the light at time t
(t can be chosen freely)

Once again, you are using a coordinate chart in which you can't assume that conservation of momentum works. Unless you have done the math, you can't just help yourself to the above statements. A coordinate chart in which a black hole is moving does *not* work like a standard inertial frame in SR, nor does it work like standard Schwarzschild coordinates in GR.

jartsa said:
Velocity change of the black hole = momentum change / mass

Even if the coordinates you are using did work like standard coordinates, this would not be true; relativistic momentum is not mass times velocity. You really need to do some math on this problem.
 
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I think "relativistic mass" is a concept which should be avoided. It's better to think in terms of energy and to understand that energy is a source of gravitation, so an object moving with a lot of kinetic energy is going to have a stronger gravitational field.

ok on the first part, but the rest depends on your definition of gravity; such an increase in KE is not sourced from the Einstein stress energy momentum tensor...the source of gravity as usually defined...which is in the rest frame of the mass.

Hmmm... a faster moving object, with more KE, say going past a large gravitating source such as a planet, would be deflected LESS than a similar object with lower velocity...?

Anyway, if the objects were two space ships, each would measure the planet as having the different KE relative to them...
 

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