Gravity Pull: Calculating Time to Impact

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for two objects to collide under the influence of gravity, considering their masses and initial conditions. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning related to gravitational interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the time it takes for two objects to collide when they are initially at rest and under gravitational attraction.
  • Another participant questions whether the scenario is a homework problem and clarifies the initial conditions of the objects.
  • A participant explains that if the mass of one object cannot be ignored, a modified form of the orbital period formula should be used, incorporating both masses.
  • One participant references a previous solution involving a differential equation related to gravitational forces, expressing uncertainty about the details of that solution.

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The discussion includes multiple viewpoints on how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the treatment of the masses of the objects and the appropriate mathematical methods to use. No consensus is reached on a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention different methods for calculating the time to impact, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of the equations involved and the assumptions made about the system.

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Individuals interested in gravitational physics, mathematical modeling of physical systems, or those exploring concepts related to orbital mechanics may find this discussion relevant.

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There are two objects with the distance of r apart .
because of the gravity , these two objects start to get closer to each other and then they get to each other (actually they fall on each other) .So my question is how long does it take for them to get to each other?
Thank you
 
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Do the two objects start at rest?

Is this a homework problem?
 
Yes , their initial velocity is zero .
No it's not a homework , the teacher told us how to use Kepler's third law for a big fall like this (for example an asteroid falls to the sun) but in those kinds of cases one object is a lot heavier than the other one.
so this question popped in my head what if you can't ignore the small object's mass?
thanks
 
If you can't ignore the mass of one of the objects, then you need to use a modified form of the orbital period formula where you add the masses together (where you normally would have "M", you substitute (M+m). Then take half of the orbital period to get your fall time.
 
Good , I didn't think of that , thanks
but once someone solved this but I was too young to understand what he did
He was trying to solve the " m[tex]\ddot{r}[/tex]=-gMm/r^2 " differential equation , but I guess your solution is good , too . Thanks
 

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