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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and feasibility of gravity shield concepts, particularly in relation to the Podkletnov effect, with references to Boeing and NASA's attempts to explore these ideas. Participants seek diagrams and detailed information about the construction of such devices, despite skepticism regarding their viability.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for diagrams and information on gravity shield construction, despite being told it does not work.
  • Another participant questions the request for diagrams on something that is claimed to be unbuildable or nonexistent.
  • Some participants mention that NASA has produced reports on the Podkletnov effect, suggesting that a search could yield results.
  • A participant notes that NASA's efforts were aimed at reproducing the Podkletnov effect but were unsuccessful.
  • Links to various resources, including interviews and articles related to NASA's NIAC, are provided by participants as potential sources of information.
  • There is a strong assertion from some participants that the Podkletnov effect does not work and cannot be experimentally reproduced, labeling it as pseudoscience.
  • One participant humorously acknowledges the difficulty in finding credible sources and expresses a willingness to share plans if they exist.
  • Another participant reflects on the nature of NIAC's funding and its focus on revolutionary concepts, emphasizing the need for sound scientific principles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit significant disagreement regarding the validity of the Podkletnov effect and the feasibility of gravity shield designs. While some provide resources and express interest in the topic, others firmly reject the underlying concepts as pseudoscience.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference a lack of empirical verification for the Podkletnov effect and express uncertainty about the availability of credible diagrams or plans. The discussion reflects varying levels of skepticism and belief in the potential for gravity shield technology.

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ive been told boeing and NASA both proved this not to work, but I am trying to find detailed diagrams on how it is built regaurdless.

if anyone has any hyperlinks or diagrams or information of any kind on how it was built and what was used, id be very grateful
 
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You want diagrams on something that can't be built or that doesn't exist?
 
I'm sure NASA produced a report of their findings - a Google should find it.
 
They didn't build anything new. They were trying to reproduce the Podkletnov effect, to no avail.

http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN01/wn101201.html
http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN02/wn080202.html

The description of the podklenov setup is available everywhere.

Zz.
 
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FredGarvin said:
You want diagrams on something that can't be built or that doesn't exist?
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Elanore Roosevelt

if anyone has anythign constructive i would appreciate it, i have scoured google for 3 weeks and haven't found much, although i haven't slept in a while and i don't think my reading is up to par
 
Zz and FredGarvin are correct.

However, if one must -

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4752763078970549144
Interview with Bob Cassanova - NIAC Director

NASA's IAC (NIAC) has been looking at that and other concepts.

http://www.americanantigravity.com/categories/Feature-Articles/

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=504

Have fun. I am not sure if they have published diagrams, but perhaps papers from STAIF and AIAA might have some.

Please do not start a thread on the Heim theory or Dröscher-Häuser-Heim approach. Rather, just search the Physics forum for "Heim".
 
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Shouldn't somone emphasize the obvious?

Podkletnov effect doesn't work and cannot be reproduced experimentally!

Astronuc - since when do you of all people provide links to crackpot sites?
 
imperium2600 said:
if anyone has anythign constructive i would appreciate it, i have scoured google for 3 weeks and haven't found much, although i haven't slept in a while and i don't think my reading is up to par

Constructive? You're the one defying reality here. This is well-debunked psuedoscience, contradicting thermodynamic law, and lacking even a shred of empirical verification. Take a cold shower.
 
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imperium2600 said:
if anyone has anythign constructive i would appreciate it, i have scoured google for 3 weeks and haven't found much, although i haven't slept in a while and i don't think my reading is up to par
Oh. I'm sorry. I misunderstood you. I have the plans and drawings right here on my laptop. Give me your e-mail address and I'll send them to you free of charge.
 
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Rach3 said:
Astronuc - since when do you of all people provide links to crackpot sites?
I feel so dirty. :smile: That's the only place that one can find this stuff on the internet. :smile: :biggrin: I couldn't find any specific reference at a NASA site like Marshall, Goddard or Langley, and not even NIAC :smile: :rolleyes: (btw - NIAC is an independent entity funded by NASA and administered by USRA).

I do have some papers on superconductors used in 'anti-gravity' devices, somewhere in my archives, but at the moment, I don't remember which box. A colleague had collected them from some conference, which may have been sponsored/hosted by AIAA and/or NASA/USRA.

I never took the stuff seriously, so I wasn't too inclined to keep track of the papers. :rolleyes:

As for what NIAC does fund -
NIAC seeks proposals for revolutionary aeronautics and space concepts that could dramatically impact how NASA develops and conducts its missions. It provides a highly visible, recognizable, and high-level entry point for outside thinkers and researchers. NIAC encourages proposers to think decades into the future in pursuit of concepts that will "leapfrog" the evolution of current aerospace systems. While NIAC seeks advance concept proposals that stretch the imagination, these concepts should be based on sound scientific principles and attainable within a 10 to 40-year time frame.
 
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