GRE Test: Surviving the Analytical Writing Section

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The discussion centers on experiences and challenges related to the Analytical Writing section of the GRE General Test, with participants sharing their personal experiences, concerns about the test format, and the relevance of the GRE in graduate admissions, particularly in mathematics.

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  • Some participants express feeling overwhelmed by the time constraints of the Analytical Writing section, questioning how to effectively organize responses within 30 minutes.
  • One participant suggests that math departments may prioritize GRE subject exam scores over the general GRE scores, indicating a potential lack of concern for the general exam results.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited knowledge of abstract algebra and its representation in the GRE subject test, with some recalling specific challenging problems encountered.
  • There is a sentiment that if questions are not straightforward, participants may struggle to answer them correctly.
  • A participant critiques the GRE as an unnecessary standardized test in academia, arguing that it does not reflect the true capabilities of graduate students who have already chosen their paths.

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Participants express a range of opinions on the value and difficulty of the GRE, particularly the Analytical Writing section, with no consensus on its overall importance or effectiveness in graduate admissions.

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Some participants mention specific challenges related to the GRE subject test and abstract algebra, indicating a reliance on personal experiences and varying levels of preparedness.

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Individuals preparing for the GRE, particularly those focusing on the Analytical Writing section or the mathematics subject test, may find the shared experiences and concerns relevant.

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I took the GRE General Test earlier this week. The verbal and quantitative reasoning sections were easy, but I was overwhelmed by the analytical writing section. How does one organize a multi-paragraph response in only 30 minutes? Due to the time constraints, I was only able to give partial responses to both questions.

I have a Master of Science in Mathematics, but most (if not all) PhD programs require that you take the GRE.
 
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Random Variable said:
I took the GRE General Test earlier this week. The verbal and quantitative reasoning sections were easy, but I was overwhelmed by the analytical writing section. How does one organize a multi-paragraph response in only 30 minutes? Due to the time constraints, I was only able to give partial responses to both questions.

I have a Master of Science in Mathematics, but most (if not all) PhD programs require that you take the GRE.

To me, the analytic writing section was the most challenging too. However, since I have a thing for writing, I managed to do alright on it. However, I don't think you should really be too concerned about the general exam; most maths departments don't care about the general exam (it's mostly grad admissions that have some interest in it). The thing the maths departments care about is how you do on the GRE subject exam. Have you taken that yet?
 
It might have helped if I knew beforehand that there is a pool of topics on the GRE web site.

No, I haven't taken the subject test. It's not offered until April. The one thing that concerns me is my knowledge (or lack thereof) of abstract algebra.
 
Random Variable said:
It might have helped if I knew beforehand that there is a pool of topics on the GRE web site.

No, I haven't taken the subject test. It's not offered until April. The one thing that concerns me is my knowledge (or lack thereof) of abstract algebra.

There are typically not many abstract algebra problems (there were two or three on mine), but whenever they appear, they mess with you head (like they did with mine). I still remember this one problem that bothered me a bunch. It said given that $p$ and $q$ were prime numbers, which of the following are not possible orders of a field? I don't remember what the options were now, but it was annoying at the time. Coupling that with the fact the exam is timed for 2 hrs 50 min, it made things interesting... (Angry)
 
If they're not straightforward questions, I have no chance of getting them correct.

I would have taken the undergraduate abstract algebra class before I graduated if anyone other than Dr. Cofer had taught it.
 
Random Variable said:
If they're not straightforward questions, I have no chance of getting them correct.

I would have taken the undergraduate abstract algebra class before I graduated if anyone other than Dr. Cofer had taught it.

I'm just curious about something...is this Dr. Cofer you speak of a female named Tanya? Or is it someone else? (I ask because I took an abstract algebra class as an undegrad with a Dr. Cofer too...??!) XD
 
Chris L T521 said:
I'm just curious about something...is this Dr. Cofer you speak of a female named Tanya? Or is it someone else? (I ask because I took an abstract algebra class as an undegrad with a Dr. Cofer too...??!) XD
You both may be interested in this page
 
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I thought you knew who I was. My bad. (Doh)

I'm Greg. We were in the same PDE class a couple of years ago at NEIU. You sat in the front row next to Rebecca, and I sat in the back row by the door.
 
Random Variable said:
I thought you knew who I was. My bad. (Doh)

I'm Greg. We were in the same PDE class a couple of years ago at NEIU. You sat in the front row next to Rebecca, and I sat in the back row by the door.

Oh wow...this world is a small world after all. I do remember you were in my class, but I can't put a face to the name...!
 
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Chris L T521 said:
Oh wow...this world is a small world after all. I do remember you were in my class, but I can't put a face to the name...!

I wear glasses if that helps.

I thought that one of the reasons I was promoted on the old site to "MHF Expert" was because you knew who I was. I'm not sure why I thought that. You hardly knew me.
 
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Wow...ways of the internet...:p By the way the book on abstract algebra by Charles Pinter is great.
 
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Chris L T521 said:
XD
Funny integral.

$$ \int_0^{1}f(x) \ \ XD $$
 
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I took the GRE as well last year just as the new one came out. I did well overall but my writing score was lower than I had expected. I think the GRE is even more useless than the SAT and might be the most unneeded standardized test in US academia. In undergrad a lot of students explore their options and change majors all the time but in grad school you know the path and shouldn't be changing it. The ability to answer strange math and English questions very well would not be a big factor if I was in charge of grad school admissions.
 

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