1. Limited time only! Sign up for a free 30min personal tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Griffiths Electrodynamics - Chap 5 clarification curl of B field

  1. Mar 3, 2013 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    This question is regarding clarifying some reading in Griffith’s Electrodynamics, page 224.
    “deriving the curl of B”
    In particular it’s less on electrodynamics and more on some vectors or vector calculus.
    The book states: we must check that the second term integrates to zero:

    The second term that is referred to is:
    [tex] –(J *\nabla)\frac{\hat{r}}{r^3}[/tex]
    • = “dot product”
    The x-component is [tex] –(J *\nabla')\frac{x-x’}{r^3} = \nabla' * [\frac{x-x’}{r^3} J]- (\frac{x-x’}{r^3})(\nabla'*J) [/tex]
    “using product rule 5”
    Product rule 5 states: [tex] \nabla*(fA) = f(\nabla*A)+ A*(\nabla f)[/tex]
    F is a scalar, A is a vector”


    2. Relevant equations



    3. The attempt at a solution

    I am having some difficulty matching up the terms and applying “product rule 5” in this case”

    If I let the [tex]f(\nabla*A) [/tex] term = [tex](J*\nabla')(\frac{x-x’}{r^3}) [/tex]

    And [tex]\nabla*(f*A)[/tex] = [tex]\nabla'*(\frac{x-x'}{r^3} J)[/tex]

    The last term does not match.

    Meaning, I have [tex]A*(\nabla f)[/tex] from the product rule.

    The vector A "dot" a divergence.My remaining term does not have a divergence.

    How does this product rule fit?

    Thanks
    -Sparky_
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Mar 4, 2013 #2

    TSny

    User Avatar
    Homework Helper
    Gold Member

    You want to use the identity: ##\vec{\nabla} \cdot(f \vec{A}) = f(\vec{\nabla} \cdot\vec{A}) + \vec{A} \cdot (\vec{\nabla} f) = f(\vec{\nabla} \cdot\vec{A}) +( \vec{A} \cdot \vec{\nabla}) f## where I have rewritten the last term in a slightly different form.

    Note that on the left you have a divergence of a vector: ##f(\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{A})## whereas on the right you do not have a divergence. You'll need to reconsider which term in the product rule should be identified with [tex](\vec{J} \cdot \vec{\nabla '})(\frac{x-x’}{r^3})[/tex]
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?
Draft saved Draft deleted



Similar Discussions: Griffiths Electrodynamics - Chap 5 clarification curl of B field
Loading...