Evaluating a momentum operator

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a momentum operator in the context of quantum field theory, specifically focusing on the vector potential and its derivatives. Participants are examining the mathematical expressions related to the momentum operator and the implications of various terms in the calculations.

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  • Participants discuss the evaluation of terms involving time and spatial derivatives of the vector potential. There are attempts to simplify complex expressions and to identify relevant factors, such as the need for integrals and the implications of orthonormality conditions.

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Some participants are actively refining their calculations and seeking clarification on specific terms and factors that arise during the evaluation process. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the results and the conditions under which certain terms may contribute to the final outcome.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying integrals and the orthonormality of polarization vectors, as well as the need to consider limits and delta functions in their calculations. There is acknowledgment of potential missing factors and the complexity of the expressions involved.

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Show that the momentum operator ##\hat{\vec P}## yields



$$\hat{\vec P} = \int d^3 \vec x \frac{1}{c^2} \mathcal{N} \left( \dot A_{\mu} \nabla A^{\mu} \right) = \sum_{\vec k} \hbar \vec k N( \vec k)$$



Where ##\mathcal{N}## stands for normal-ordering and ##N( \vec k)## is the number operator

##N( \vec k) = \sum_{r=0}^3 \zeta_r a_r^{\dagger} (\vec k) a_r^{\dagger} (\vec k)## (for instance, EQ ##5.33## Mandl & Shaw)
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I think I get the approach. We first need to evaluate the term ##\dot A_{\mu} \nabla A^{\mu}## and then evaluate the 3D space integral; we may need to take the limit ##V \rightarrow \infty## (i.e ##\sum_{\vec k} (2 \pi)^3/V \rightarrow \int d^3 \vec k##) at some point.

The mode expansions of the vector potential ##A^{\mu}=A_{+}^{\mu} + A_{-}^{\mu}## are

$$A_{-}^{\mu}=\sum_{r=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \epsilon_r^{\mu} a_r^{\dagger}(\vec k) e^{ik \cdot x} \right] \tag{1.1}$$

$$A_{+}^{\mu}=\sum_{r=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \epsilon_r^{\mu} a_r(\vec k) e^{-i \vec k \cdot \vec x} \right] \tag{1.2}$$

The time-derivatives of ##(1.1)## and ##(1.2)## are

$$\dot A_{-}^{\mu} = ik^0 e^{ik^0 x^0}\sum_{r=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \epsilon_r^{\mu} a_r^{\dagger}(\vec k) e^{-i \vec k \cdot \vec x} \right]$$

$$\dot A_{+}^{\mu} = -ik^0 e^{-ik^0 x^0}\sum_{r=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \epsilon_r^{\mu} a_r(\vec k) e^{i \vec k \cdot \vec x} \right]$$

The spatial-derivatives of ##(1.1)## and ##(1.2)## are

$$ \nabla A_-^{\mu} = -i e^{ik^0 x^0}\sum_{r=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \vec k \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \epsilon_r^{\mu} a_r^{\dagger}(\vec k) e^{-i \vec k \cdot \vec x} \right]$$

$$ \nabla A_+^{\mu} = i e^{-ik^0 x^0}\sum_{r=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \vec k \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \epsilon_r^{\mu} a_r(\vec k) e^{i \vec k \cdot \vec x} \right]$$

We evaluate ##\dot A_{\mu} \nabla A^{\mu}##

$$\dot A_{\mu} \nabla A^{\mu}=(\dot A^{+}_{\mu}+ \dot A^{-}_{\mu})(\nabla A_+^{\mu} +\nabla A_-^{\mu})=\dot A^{+}_{\mu}\nabla A_+^{\mu} + \dot A^{-}_{\mu}\nabla A_-^{\mu} + \dot A^{+}_{\mu}\nabla A_-^{\mu}+\dot A^{+}_{\mu}\nabla A_+^{\mu}$$

Let's evaluate ##\dot A^{+}_{\mu}\nabla A_+^{\mu}## explicitly

$$\dot A^{+}_{\mu}\nabla A_+^{\mu}=-ik^0 e^{-ik^0 x^0}\sum_{r=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \eta_{\mu \nu} \epsilon_r^{\nu} a_r(\vec k) e^{i \vec k \cdot \vec x} \right]i e^{-ik^0 x^0} \sum_{r=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \vec k \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \epsilon_r^{\mu} a_r(\vec k) e^{i \vec k \cdot \vec x} \right] \tag{*}$$

OK ##(*)## looks messy; let's focus on relevant terms

$$\dot A^{+}_{\mu}\nabla A_+^{\mu} \sim \eta_{\mu \nu} \epsilon_r^{\nu} a_r(\vec k) \vec k \epsilon_r^{\mu} a_r(\vec k)= \eta_{\mu \nu} \epsilon_r^{\nu} \vec k \epsilon_r^{\mu} a_r(\vec k) a_r(\vec k)\tag{**}$$

Once here, based on the orthonormality and completeness of the polarization vectors

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And the customary choice of polarization vectors

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So the idea would be using ##(5.19)## but we do not have the ##\zeta_r## factor. Besides, the 3-vector ##\vec k## suggests we may have to use the orthogonal conditions ##(5.22b)##.

How could we evaluate ##(*), (**)## then?

Thank you :biggrin:
 
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It's a pretty longish calculation. You have to be a bit more careful though when looking at products and use different momenta for each of the factors and then interchange the momentum integrals with the spatial integral making use of
$$\int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \mathrm{d}^3 x \exp(\mathrm{i} (\vec{k}_1-\vec{k}_2) \cdot \vec{x})=(2 \pi)^3 \delta^{(3)}(\vec{k}_1-\vec{k}_2).$$
Then you can do one of the then trivial momentum integrations and are left with the other momentum integral leading to the right-hand side of the formula you want to prove. Just keep calculating!
 
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Hi vanhees71, I see it better now thanks to your comments.

OK let me rewrite ##(*)##, distinguishing momentum and polarization vectors. I also noticed I missed a ##1/c## factor (which pops up due to ##\partial_{0}=\partial/(c\partial t)##)

$$\dot A^{+}_{\mu}\nabla A_+^{\mu}=\sum_{r,s=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k, \vec k'} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k'}} \Big)^{1/2} k^0/c \ \eta_{\mu \nu} \epsilon_r^{\nu}(\vec k) a_r(\vec k) e^{-i k \cdot x} \vec k' \epsilon_s^{\mu}(\vec k') a_s(\vec k') e^{-i k' \cdot x} \right]$$

$$=\sum_{r,s=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k, \vec k'} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k'}} \Big)^{1/2} k^0/c \ \vec k'\epsilon_{r \mu}(\vec k)\epsilon_s^{\mu}(\vec k') a_r(\vec k) a_s(\vec k') e^{-i (k+k') \cdot x} \right]$$

Using the orthonormality condition ##(5.18)## and ##k^0 = \omega_{\vec k} / c##

$$=-\sum_{r,s=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k, \vec k'} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k'}} \Big)^{1/2} k^0/c \ \vec k'\zeta_r \delta_{r,s}\delta_{\vec k, \vec k'} a_r(\vec k) a_s(\vec k') e^{-i (k+k') \cdot x} \right]$$ $$=-\sum_{r}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar }{2V} \Big) \vec k \zeta_r a_r(\vec k) a_r(\vec k) e^{-2i k \cdot x} \right]$$

Mmm this (at least) smells good! We've got the ##\hbar \vec k## term and ##\zeta_r##. However there are two main issues: I do not get the number operator and ##e^{-2i k \cdot x}## is not the expected factor (we would expect something like ##e^{i (k-k') \cdot x}##, so that the Dirac-delta function could be obtained after integrating over momentum space).

I considered the possibility that this term may not contribute to the final answer but I do think it does, as none of the other 3 terms is ##\sim a_r(\vec k) a_r(\vec k)##...

Or maybe I just need to think more about it 😅
 
You forgot the ##\vec{x}##-integral. Only then the resulting ##\delta^{(3)}(\vec{k}+\vec{k}')## allows you to use the orthonormality condition for the polarization vectors but then also you have the factor ##\vec{k}##!
 
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vanhees71 said:
You forgot the ##\vec{x}##-integral

Oh I see! Let's try again

$$\frac{1}{c^2} \int d^3 \vec x \sum_{r,s=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k, \vec k'} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k'}} \Big)^{1/2} k^0 \ \vec k'\epsilon_{r \mu}(\vec k)\epsilon_{s}^{\mu}(\vec k') a_r(\vec k) a_s(\vec k') e^{-i (k+k') \cdot x} \right]=$$

$$= \frac{1}{c^2} \sum_{r,s=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k, \vec k'} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2V \omega_{\vec k'}} \Big)^{1/2} k^0 \ \vec k'\epsilon_{r \mu}(\vec k)\epsilon_{s}^{\mu}(\vec k') a_r(\vec k) a_s(\vec k') (2 \pi)^3 \delta^{(3)}(\vec k + \vec k') e^{-i (k^0+k'^0) x}\right] \tag{@}$$

Where I've performed the 3D integral. Taking the limit ##V \rightarrow \infty## (i.e ##\sum_{\vec k} (2 \pi)^3/V \rightarrow \int d^3 \vec k##) and the orthonormality condition ##(5.18)## we get

$$@ = \frac{1}{c^2} \sum_{r,s=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \int d^3 \vec k' \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2 \omega_{\vec k}} \Big)^{1/2} \Big(\frac{\hbar c^2}{2 \omega_{\vec k'}} \Big)^{1/2} k^0 \ \vec k'\epsilon_{r \mu}(\vec k)\epsilon_{s}^{\mu}(\vec k') a_r(\vec k) a_s(\vec k') \delta^{(3)}(\vec k + \vec k') e^{-i (k^0+k'^0) x}\right]=$$

$$= \sum_{r,s=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \Big(\frac{\hbar }{2} \Big) \vec k \ \epsilon_{r \mu}(\vec k)\epsilon_{s}^{\mu}(\vec k) a_r(\vec k) a_s(\vec k) e^{-i (k^0+k'^0) x}\right]=$$

$$= -\frac{\hbar }{2} \sum_{r=0}^3 \sum_{\vec k} \left[ \vec k \
\zeta_r a_r(\vec k) a_r(\vec k) e^{-i (k^0+k'^0) x}\right]$$

Mmm it does not look right, as I am not getting the number operator, I get the extra factor ##e^{-i (k^0+k'^0) x}## and the -ive sign.

I have the same issue with the term

$$\dot A^{-}_{\mu}\nabla A_-^{\mu} \sim -a_r^{\dagger} (\vec k) a_r^{\dagger} (\vec k)$$

Thinking...
 

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