Griffiths (electrostatics) problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem in electrostatics involving a conical surface with a uniform surface charge density. The objective is to find the potential difference between the apex and the center of the cone's top, given its height and radius.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of calculus to evaluate the electric potential by considering a ring parallel to the circular base of the cone. There are attempts to express the radius in terms of the cone's height and radius, and to set up the integral for potential using the surface charge density.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance on expressing the area element in terms of the radius and evaluating the potential at specific points. Multiple interpretations of the setup and integral formulation are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach yet.

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Participants are encouraged to show their thought processes and attempts, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify the problem without providing direct solutions.

Kolahal Bhattacharya
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A conicalsurface(an empty ice cream cone) carries a uniform surface charge density sigma.The height & radius of the cone are h & R.Find potential difference between apex & centre of the top
 
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Hi Kolahal and welcome to PF,

Could please show your thoughts and what you have attempted thus far?

HINT: Get your calculus books out. :wink:
 
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I have started the problem considering a ring ll to circular base.Expressed its radius in terms of its height,R,h.Then, I used the integral(Griffiths:2.30):-(1/4 pi epsilon not) integral over (sigma/curly r)da
sigma= surface charge density,curly r=lr-r'l,da=area element
 
Kolahal Bhattacharya said:
I have started the problem considering a ring ll to circular base.Expressed its radius in terms of its height,R,h.Then, I used the integral(Griffiths:2.30):-(1/4 pi epsilon not) :smile: integral over (sigma/curly r)da
sigma= surface charge density,curly r=lr-r'l,da=area element

OK, you mean this:
[tex]V(r) = \frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon_0}\int \frac{\sigma}{r}da[/tex]
Just a few hints:
Express [itex]da[/itex] in terms of "r" and evaluate the electric potential at two points, viz. the apex and the centre of its surface.
 
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So you have (just so I can see it more clearly);

[tex]V = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_{0}} \int \frac{\sigma}{|r-r'|} \; da[/tex]

You need to express you change in area (dA) in terms of radii.

Edit: Rashma got there before me.
 

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