GSHP - What percentage of heat energy is taken from the ground?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the operation of ground source heat pumps (GSHP) and the percentage of heat energy extracted from the ground versus the energy consumed by the system. Participants explore the relationship between the coefficient of performance (COP) and the heat energy sourced from the ground.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially believes that 100% of the heat is taken from the ground, with an additional 25% of electrical energy required for the conversion process.
  • Another participant suggests that for a heat pump with a COP of 4, the ground collector only needs to absorb 3 kW of heat energy, with the remaining 1 kW supplied by electricity for the compressor.
  • A later reply references a source indicating that a geothermal heat pump provides heat from both the heat source and the electrical input, leading to a cooling of the ground by 2.5 kWh instead of 3.5 kWh.
  • Some participants express agreement with the idea that the heat source and electrical input together contribute to the heat output in the home.
  • One participant clarifies that while they initially thought all heat came from the ground, they acknowledge that the conversion process does add heat, leading to a cooling of the ground by 4 kW for a 4 kW heat pump.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the exact percentage of heat taken from the ground versus that supplied by electrical energy. Participants express differing views on how the COP affects the heat extraction and the cooling of the ground.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that can influence the performance of a heat pump, such as local conditions, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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Hi all,

I am wondering about heat pumps, not necessarily ground source heat pump.

What percentage of heat is taken from the ground?

My understanding was that 100% of the heat is taken from the ground but it costs 25% (if COP of 4) in electrical energy (running the compressor) to convert the heat from low temperature heat into high temperature heat (albeit a smaller amount).

From reading some forums, some people think that if I have a 4kW heat pump and achieve a COP of 4, that the ground collector only needs to absorb 3kW of heat energy and the other 1 kW is supplied from the electricity, i.e. the compressor.

Is this correct?
 
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Have you seen this link??
It tells you all you need to know - and agrees with your understading of it. But other factors will determine what sort of value you, personally, will get if you instal it in your home. That is much harder to estimate because it will depend very much on local conditions (wind, air and soil temperatures and soil type etc.).
 
Cheers for the reply. It answered my question but it appears I am wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance

"A geothermal heat pump operating at 3.5 provides 3.5 units of heat for each unit of energy consumed (i.e. 1 kWh consumed would provide 3.5 kWh of output heat). The output heat comes from both the heat source and 1 kWh of input energy, so the heat-source is cooled by 2.5 kWh, not 3.5 kWh."
 
You seem to be right to me. The heat source heat plus the electrical input appear as heat in your house. Isn't that what you are both saying?
 
sophiecentaur said:
You seem to be right to me. The heat source heat plus the electrical input appear as heat in your house. Isn't that what you are both saying?

No, I was thinking 100% of heat comes from ground but it costs you 25% in electrical energy to convert it into usable energy. I thought the conversion process didn't add any additional heat but it does.

i.e. if you had a 4 kW heat pump, you would cool the ground by 4 kW not 3 kW.

But just to clarify for anyone else, it does only cool the ground by 3 kW granted you have a COP of 4.
 
Yep - and that's how I read what you wrote. :smile:
 

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