H2O to HHO: Is Water Power the Greatest Invention Ever?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the claims surrounding the conversion of water (H2O) to a combustible gas referred to as HHO, exploring its potential as a revolutionary energy source. Participants examine the scientific validity of these claims, the mechanisms proposed for HHO production, and the implications of such technology.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the efficiency and legitimacy of the HHO claims, suggesting that the welding machine may not be producing energy from water but rather from an external power source.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the lack of detailed scientific explanation or evidence supporting the claims made in the video, with some participants labeling it as pseudoscience.
  • One participant questions the scientific accuracy of the claims about HHO, particularly regarding the chemical structure and properties of HHO compared to water.
  • There is a discussion about the historical context of similar claims, with references to past pseudoscientific assertions and the absence of credible evidence over decades.
  • Some participants express a desire for more transparency from those making the claims, particularly regarding patented processes and the potential benefits for society.
  • A reference is made to a specific paper discussing a new form of water and its purported properties, suggesting a novel chemical process for HHO production that deviates from traditional understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the validity of the HHO claims, with multiple competing views presented. While some express strong skepticism and categorize the claims as dubious, others reference scientific literature that proposes new theories about HHO production.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the absence of clear experimental evidence supporting the claims, the vague nature of the descriptions provided in the video, and the reliance on historical claims without substantial verification.

  • #31
Total BS. You need to split the water into HHO first, which is not an easy task, but more importantly, then you burn the HHO, you can't get any new energy out of it, just whatever you put into split it in the first place.
 
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  • #32
They add baking soda as a catalyst and use the car battery to run electricity through metal coils submerged in the water container which has a vacuum line connected to it. Would that process work? Where is information that says that using this process would require more energy input in electricity than would be released as mechanical energy when combusting the product?
 
  • #33
W3pcq said:
Where is information that says that using this process would require more energy input in electricity than would be released as mechanical energy when combusting the product?

Try any chemistry textbook.
 
  • #34
Mine doesn't provide this info.
 
  • #36
You probably can. Still doesn't change the fact that you're paying for something that doesn't work.
 
  • #37
It is H2, not HHO. The hydrogen only remains monoatomic for a few milliseconds.

HHO = nonsense.

If you make H2 to burn in your car, you spend about twice as much energy to make it as you get back from it as a fuel.
 

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