Hands-on Engineering: Is it Possible in High School?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of engaging in hands-on engineering work during high school and beyond, particularly in fields like aerospace engineering. Participants explore the balance between design and practical application, questioning whether engineers can be involved in the physical building process or if their roles are primarily desk-based.

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  • One participant expresses a desire to be involved in the hands-on aspect of engineering, questioning if engineers can participate in the building process rather than just designing.
  • Another participant argues that in larger companies, engineers typically do not engage in physical tasks like construction, emphasizing the importance of specialized roles for quality and efficiency.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that field engineers can have significant hands-on experience, depending on the company and type of work, allowing for a mix of office and field responsibilities.
  • One participant shares their experience as a technician, highlighting the valuable lessons learned from hands-on work and the common mistakes made by engineers who lack practical experience.
  • There is a repeated emphasis on the importance of fieldwork for engineers to avoid repeating past mistakes and to gain a better understanding of real-world applications.

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Participants express differing views on the feasibility of hands-on engineering roles. While some acknowledge the potential for fieldwork, others maintain that traditional engineering roles are largely desk-oriented, leading to an unresolved discussion about the balance between design and practical application.

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Participants note the limitations of their experiences and the variability of engineering roles across different companies and fields, indicating that the discussion is influenced by personal perspectives and specific industry contexts.

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I'm in high school, getting good grades, i enjoy studying physics and mathematics (to a lesser degree chemistry)

I want to go into engineering, but as i understand it most engineers now days end up stuck behind a desk.(or working in finance/wallstreet/software)

I want to know if you can be an engineer and be out in the field, and be hands on as well. or is that not possible?


For instance, an aerospace engineer, designs a plane, but he's not actually building the plane, the skilled tradesmen(aircraft maintenance engineers, electricians, mechanics, technicians and the like) and laborers are the ones doing the actual building


Would it be possible for an engineer to do the building as well? To be directly involved in the building...

I would derive a great deal of satisfaction to actually be part of the building process, and see a finished result, and know that i had something to contribute...
 
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Not really. Unless you are in a start up, and working on something small, your time as an engineer is not worth wasting on turning bolts and pouring concrete. Not to mention you'd lack the practical experience that the tradesmen would have. If you want quality, you need people focused on their part.

However, there are many engineering jobs (depends on the company) which have field engineers who work with those people doing the work to make sure it goes well/correctly. I used to work at an aluminum smelter and my office was on-site. I spent about 50% of my time in the plant, and oversaw construction a good deal of the time, too. You obviously have some time behind a desk: it's engineering. But depending on the company and the type of work you are doing, you can see loads of field work as an engineer in almost any field (ie. mech, electrical, chemical, etc).

Besides, there's just as much satisfaction being part of the design and oversight of a project as there is in turning the nuts and welding the seams.
 
30 years ago I felt the way you did. Technician work is often looked down upon by many engineers. What they don't realize is that such work can teach you an awful lot about what mistakes the engineers make.

I started off as an electronics bench technician. I later became a field technician. I learned a great many things that most engineers do not know about the real world.

Frankly, electronics engineers who do not know how to trigger a scope properly, how to solder, how to evaluate a filter, how to decouple a power supply, --they have my utter contempt.

I have also met many engineers who didn't understand why you couldn't bolt a venturi metering section of pipe right to a butterfly valve.

Field work is essential to becoming a good engineer. We need to rub the noses of these cubicle commandos in the real world, to keep them from making stupid mistakes.

I'm sick and tired of seeing the same old mistakes over and over again. The mistakes I make will at least be novel and unusual. That's all anyone can ask for.

So while I can't suggest a field of engineering where you can swing a wrench, I do recommend spending a few years as a technician. It will be a huge eye opener.
 
JakeBrodskyPE said:
30 years ago I felt the way you did. Technician work is often looked down upon by many engineers. What they don't realize is that such work can teach you an awful lot about what mistakes the engineers make.

I started off as an electronics bench technician. I later became a field technician. I learned a great many things that most engineers do not know about the real world.

Frankly, electronics engineers who do not know how to trigger a scope properly, how to solder, how to evaluate a filter, how to decouple a power supply, --they have my utter contempt.

I have also met many engineers who didn't understand why you couldn't bolt a venturi metering section of pipe right to a butterfly valve.

Field work is essential to becoming a good engineer. We need to rub the noses of these cubicle commandos in the real world, to keep them from making stupid mistakes.

I'm sick and tired of seeing the same old mistakes over and over again. The mistakes I make will at least be novel and unusual. That's all anyone can ask for.

So while I can't suggest a field of engineering where you can swing a wrench, I do recommend spending a few years as a technician. It will be a huge eye opener.



Well either that, or i could just be involved in a lot of field work, either way, i already am a technician :) I did a few courses a while back and got involved with some work
 

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