Harmonic Oscillator Potential Approximation

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The discussion revolves around finding the approximate ground state energy of a particle in a specific potential, V(x) = κ(x² - l²)², particularly focusing on small oscillations around the potential's stable equilibrium point.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss identifying the stable equilibrium point and expanding the potential around that point to resemble a harmonic oscillator potential. There are questions about how to handle specific terms in the expansion and the implications for calculating the ground state energy.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the expansion of the potential and its relation to harmonic oscillator characteristics. There is an ongoing exploration of the necessary calculations and approximations, with no explicit consensus reached on the final approach.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the potential's form and the requirements for deriving the ground state energy, with some indicating that certain calculations may not be necessary for the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement



A particle is in a region with the potential
V(x) = κ(x2-l2)2
What is the approximate ground state energy approximation for small oscillations about the location of the potential's stable equilibrium?

Homework Equations



ground state harmonic oscillator ~ AeC*x2


The Attempt at a Solution



My plan is to find the value of x for which V(x) is at stable equilibrium, then expand about that point, and the expansion should look something like the harmonic oscillator potential (1/2*mωx2). Once the potential is known, I know H = p2/2m + V, and I can use <0|H|0> to find the ground state energy, where |0> is the GS energy eigenstate for the harmonic oscillator.

I have found that the stable equilibrium of V(x) is at x = l.
Next, I expanded V(x) about this point and found:
V = 4κl2(x2-2lx+l2) + O(x-l)3

But what can I do about the 2lx term? I need it to get lost in order to get the HO potential, right?
 
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thelonious said:

Homework Statement



A particle is in a region with the potential
V(x) = κ(x2-l2)2
What is the approximate ground state energy approximation for small oscillations about the location of the potential's stable equilibrium?

Homework Equations



ground state harmonic oscillator ~ AeC*x2


The Attempt at a Solution



My plan is to find the value of x for which V(x) is at stable equilibrium, then expand about that point, and the expansion should look something like the harmonic oscillator potential (1/2*mωx2). Once the potential is known, I know H = p2/2m + V, and I can use <0|H|0> to find the ground state energy, where |0> is the GS energy eigenstate for the harmonic oscillator.

I have found that the stable equilibrium of V(x) is at x = l.
Next, I expanded V(x) about this point and found:
V = 4κl2(x2-2lx+l2) + O(x-l)3

But what can I do about the 2lx term? I need it to get lost in order to get the HO potential, right?
You don't want to do anything. You want the potential in terms of powers of (x-l), which is exactly what you have.
$$V \cong \frac{1}{2}(8\kappa l)(x-l)^2$$
 
So, in calculating <0|H|0>, I will have to integrate ∫(x-l)2e-mωx2/[itex]\hbar[/itex]dx from l-[itex]\epsilon[/itex] to l+[itex]\epsilon[/itex]
Right?
 
You don't need to calculate that expectation value, and no, that isn't how you'd calculate the expectation value either. The idea is you can use the approximation that you have a simple harmonic oscillator. What's the ground-state energy of a harmonic oscillator?
 
So E=[itex]\hbar[/itex]ω/2, and V=1/2*kx2=1/2*8κl2(x-l)2.
ω=√(8kl2/m), so E0=[itex]\hbar[/itex]/2*√(8kl2/m)
 
Right.
 

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