Harmonics on a Stretched Spring

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The problem involves a string fixed at both ends, with given mass density and tension, and seeks to determine the fundamental frequency, the harmonic corresponding to a specific resonance frequency, and the length of the string. The context is within the subject area of wave mechanics and harmonics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between tension, mass density, and frequency, and explore equations related to standing waves. There is an attempt to derive relationships between different harmonics and wavelengths. Questions arise regarding the determination of the string length and the velocity of the wave.

Discussion Status

Some participants have reported finding answers for parts A and B of the problem, while others express uncertainty about how to proceed with finding the length of the string, indicating a mix of progress and ongoing inquiry. Guidance has been offered regarding relevant equations, but no consensus has been reached on the final solution.

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Participants note the challenge of determining the velocity of the wave, which is necessary for calculating the length of the string. There is a recognition of the need for additional information or assumptions to resolve this aspect of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A. A string with a mass density μ = 4.10×10-3 kg/m is under a tension of F = 327 N and is fixed at both ends. One of its resonance frequencies is 742.0 Hz. The next higher resonance frequency is 1113.0 Hz. What is the fundamental frequency of this string?

B. Which harmonic does the resonance frequency at 742.0 Hz correspond to? (i.e. what is n at this frequency?)C. What is the length of the string?

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The Attempt at a Solution


So for A. I wanted to use the equation...
FF = 1/2L * sqrt(T/μ)
FF - fundamental frequency
Where...
μ = 4.10×10-3 kg/m
T = 327N
but I don't know what L is?
 
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The standing waves in a string forms with integral multiples of half of the wavelength of the generated wave in the string

[tex]L = n\frac{\lambda}{2}[/tex]

and for the speed in the wave we can substitute

[tex]\lambda f = \alpha[/tex]

where

[tex]\alpha = \sqrt{\frac{T}{\mu}}[/tex]

giving

[tex]\lambda = \frac{1}{f} \alpha[/tex]

lets say that the one standing wave forms such that

[tex]L = \frac{n\lambda _1}{2}[/tex]

and the next harmonic such that

[tex]L = \frac{(n + 1) \lambda _2}{2}[/tex]

equating gives

[tex]\frac{n\lambda _1}{2} = \frac{(n + 1) \lambda _2}{2}[/tex]

therefore

[tex]n\lambda _1 = (n + 1) \lambda _2[/tex]

substituting now for [tex]\lambda[/tex] gives

[tex]\frac{n \alpha}{f_1} = \frac{(n+1) \alpha}{f_2}[/tex]

...
 
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Wow...okay so is that all just for the first part of the question??
 
Ok I got the answer for A and B (A was 371Hz and B was 2)...but I can not figure out how to determine the length of the string. I thought the equation to use was...
L = V/2f
but I don't have the velocity...
Can someone please help me with this.
Thank you
 

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