Has anyone won a physics Nobel prize for computation/simulation work?

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The discussion revolves around whether any physicists have received a Nobel Prize specifically for work related to computation or simulation. Participants explore the distinctions between computational methods and theoretical models across various scientific disciplines, including physics, chemistry, and biology.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that no physicist has won a Nobel Prize for computation or simulation work, suggesting that awards are typically given for theoretical models or methods rather than for performing calculations.
  • Others argue that the development of computational methods can be considered significant and relevant, citing examples from chemistry and biology where computational work contributed to theoretical advancements.
  • A participant emphasizes that the distinction between analytical and numerical calculations does not diminish the scientific merit of theoretical predictions made through computational means.
  • One participant references historical examples of computational work in biology, questioning whether such efforts could be classified as computational contributions worthy of recognition.

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Participants generally disagree on the criteria for Nobel recognition in relation to computation and simulation work, with multiple competing views on the relevance and significance of computational contributions across disciplines.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the ambiguity in defining what constitutes a significant contribution in the context of Nobel Prizes, particularly regarding the roles of computation versus theoretical development.

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I don't think so. They get it in chemistry (Kohn and Pople) or biology (Hodkin and Huxley)
 
None of those examples got it for doing computations, they got it for the development of computational methods and for a successful theoretical model, respectively. (The latter in medicine, there's no Nobel in biology)

I don't really see how physics, chemistry and medicine would be significantly different here. You won't get an award for performing a calculation, it has no scientific merit in itself. You can get a prize for theory, in the sense that you developed a theoretical model/method that is useful. Or you can get a prize for theory in the sense that you made a sufficiently important theoretical prediction. I don't think it's relevant whether that prediction was based on analytical or numerical calculations. Usually, when a theorist gets the prize, he's done both.
 
alxm said:
None of those examples got it for doing computations, they got it for the development of computational methods and for a successful theoretical model, respectively. (The latter in medicine, there's no Nobel in biology)

Surely this counts as computational!

"Huxley began the slow work of using a Brunsviga 20 manually cranked calculator with numbers entered by a set of adjusting levers (projecting from the wheels that were rotated by the hand crank)." http://neuron.duke.edu/userman/2/pioneer.html

"Each run of the algorithm producing a 5 millisecond theoretical voltage trace took about 8 hours of effort. Quote from Hodgkin: The propagated action potential took about three weeks to complete and must have been an enormous labour for Andrew [Huxley]." http://www.maths.nott.ac.uk/personal/sc/cnn/CNN2B.pdf
 

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