Has Television Lost Its Educational Value?

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The discussion centers around dissatisfaction with modern television programming, particularly on channels like the Travel Channel and Food Network, which are perceived as overly loud and lacking in substance. Participants express nostalgia for past shows that offered more thoughtful content, such as well-produced documentaries on art and culture or gourmet cooking programs featuring skilled chefs. There is a strong sentiment that current shows prioritize sensationalism and entertainment over educational value, contributing to a perceived decline in cultural standards. The conversation also touches on the commercialization of cooking shows, suggesting that they are produced cheaply for profit rather than to educate viewers. Some participants advocate for PBS and BBC programming as alternatives that still provide quality content. Overall, the thread reflects a broader concern about the dumbing down of media and its impact on public intelligence and culture.
  • #31
Yeah Planet Earth and Blue Planet are awesome, I'd buy the dvds but I don't have the cash.
 
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  • #32
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4708291363575166474&q=feasty+boys&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

More of the fat pigs. I megaloathe these guys.
 
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  • #33
All cultures are stupid because they consist of brainwashing your children to believe a certain set of beliefs.
As for good news programs, watch The News Hour with Jim Lehrer on PBS and BBC.
TV is bunch of crap nowadays with 6 minute commercials, racism, and propagation of stupidity in various ways.
 
  • #34
Megaloathe, eh? Sounds like the beginnings of a metal band played by physics geeks, who are activists for the worlds problems, lol.
 
  • #35
Cyrus said:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4708291363575166474&q=feasty+boys&total=3&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

More of the fat pigs. I megaloathe these guys.
Who ARE these people and why?
 
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  • #36
Evo said:
Who ARE these people and why?

http://www.feastyboys.tv/ - They're the most irreverant cooking duo on cable, print or the web! Join the Feasty Boys and their Feasty Friends as they show you how to make
"Cookin' Simple"... :biggrin:

http://www.feastyboys.tv/meetfeasties.cfm

Evo - you got to try this one! - 2001-02: "Gettin' Stupid w/ Cupid..."
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=17 :smile:

2003-05: "Got Crabs??"
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=41

2002-01: "Top Secret Recipes w/ the Feasty Boys..."
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=27

http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive.cfm

Hey this is mainstream cuisine.

Ya'll give these dudes a break now.
 
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  • #37
Cyrus said:
I must say, BBC does a good job.
Well if you will just apologise for the whole "boston harbour + tea" thing we will consider taking you back.
 
  • #38
Cyrus:
Its in all media "channels" now. Internet, films, tv-series. Earlier one could watch a action or a martial art flick, though a bit rudimentary Special effects, one was able to watch long cuts. maybe 10-15 seconds even. One really got a better understanding of what was going on.

Now its all different. Its not uncommon with 4-5cuts in ONE second. The martial arts hasnt evolved, and to hide bad fighting or whatever it is, they cut. Cut and cut and cut. It is driving me mad! You get really tired by watching a film. Tired even, just watching a minute of it. And so it goes, on series.

And actually you have this even in cooking shows. The want to be "new" and "cool," so they zoom in on the food being prepared, shakes the camera from side to side. Multiple cuts in one second. Rapid focusing. You actually get tired and confused watching a f'ing cooking show! Isnt the point with a cooking show to be able to understand, to learn? WTF!..

One important question is: why is it so? Are the audience preferring these programs? Or do the televition execs "think" this is what people want? Or are they just plain "dumbing" down the people?
 
  • #39
dumbing down for the masses? what? O, you guys :rolleyes:. you guys are crazy.

culture is alive and thriving. two words: MANSWERS.
 
  • #40
mgb_phys said:
Well if you will just apologise for the whole "boston harbour + tea" thing we will consider taking you back.
:smile: Apologize for improving your lousy tea? Don't make me laugh. To this day I refuse to drink tea grown in England.
 
  • #41
Astronuc said:
http://www.feastyboys.tv/ - They're the most irreverant cooking duo on cable, print or the web! Join the Feasty Boys and their Feasty Friends as they show you how to make
"Cookin' Simple"... :biggrin:

http://www.feastyboys.tv/meetfeasties.cfm

Evo - you got to try this one! - 2001-02: "Gettin' Stupid w/ Cupid..."
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=17 :smile:

2003-05: "Got Crabs??"
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=41

2002-01: "Top Secret Recipes w/ the Feasty Boys..."
http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive_details.cfm?Archiveid=27

http://www.feastyboys.tv/archive.cfm

Hey this is mainstream cuisine.

Ya'll give these dudes a break now.
I'm with Cyrus, these people have no reason to exist.
 
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  • #42
I watched "10 questions for the dalai lama" but I did not think it was all that great.

As for the fastie boys, I am sure they nice guys and Id have a beer with them. But for a tv show, no way. Its just absolute garbage.
 
  • #43
Evo said:
I'm with Cyrus, these people have no reason to exist.
Oh, come one, where's your sense of humor? :smile:

Cyrus said:
As for the fastie boys, I am sure they nice guys and Id have a beer with them. But for a tv show, no way. Its just absolute garbage.
It's not my cup of tea either. :biggrin:
 
  • #44
Talking cuisine, I had to do it tonite.

All kids visiting, the youngest daughter did the shopping and decided the meal to be: first dish, Carpaccio with salads and dressings, second dish, fruit de mer, third dish deer beef w/special vine sauce (wow) with Broccoli w/cheese-mushroom sauce and fried potatoes, and as desert ice tiramisu before the café cognac.

So the first two dishes weren't much of a problem as these could be prepared in advance. But the main dish, that's a real hell's kitchen nightmare as all dishes require a short cooking time and no chance do to that in advance. Now try to fry potatoes, deer beef, two sauces and broccoli simultanously in such a small kitchen in which one person is the optimal occupancy, while the guests are waiting.

But it worked and we had a real vintage culture dinner without complaints from the offspring. I guess I could be cook after retiring :-)
 
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  • #45
Andre said:
All kids visiting, the youngest daughter did the shopping and decided the meal to be: first dish, Carpaccio with salads and dressings, second dish, fruit de mer, third dish deer beef w/special vine sauce (wow) with Broccoli w/cheese-mushroom sauce and fried potatoes, and as desert ice tiramisu before the café cognac.
:-p

So the first two dishes weren't much of a problem as these could be prepared in advance. But the main dish, that's a real hell's kitchen nightmare as all dishes require a short cooking time and no chance do to that in advance. Now try to fry potatoes, deer beef, two sauces and broccoli simultanously in such a small kitchen in which one person is the optimal occupancy, while the guests are waiting.
That's the point of setting out a bottle of wine before dinner. :biggrin: or hors d'œuvres if one really gets involved.

Now this is a nice spread! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hors_d%27%C5%93uvre_%28Bosnian%29.jpg
 
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  • #46
Cyrus said:
As for the fastie boys, I am sure they nice guys and Id have a beer with them. But for a tv show, no way.
I guess it's an acquired taste - like NASCAR. :smile:

When I saw their promo on the Hamburger, I really got a craving for a Double Meat and Cheese Death Burger. But I'd take to new heights - to that of Double Meat and Cheese MegaDeath Burger!
 
  • #47
Astronuc said:
:-p

That's the point of setting out a bottle of wine before dinner. :biggrin:

Right, for this kind of family happenings I usually succeed finding a Chateauneuf du pape or a Rothschild Mouton Cadet tucked away somewhere in the cellar.
 

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