Have Quark Collision Experiments Revealed the Nature of Matter?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the nature of quarks and their interactions, particularly in the context of high-energy collisions at particle accelerators like the LHC and Fermilab. Participants explore the implications of quark collisions, the concept of mass in relation to energy, and the classification of quarks as elementary or point particles.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about experiments involving quark collisions and references a claim that quarks are composed of "nothing," linking this to the holographic universe theory.
  • Another participant explains that high-energy proton collisions at the LHC result in quark interactions, suggesting that quarks are elementary particles without smaller components.
  • A participant questions the concept of mass in relation to quarks, noting confusion about the characterization of quarks as massless.
  • Some participants challenge the phrasing and clarity of questions, emphasizing the importance of citing sources for claims made about particle physics.
  • There is a correction regarding the terminology used, with a participant clarifying that they meant "point particles" rather than "massless" quarks.
  • Another participant points out that electrons are also considered point particles and possess mass, suggesting that the discussion could include more familiar examples.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of quarks, particularly regarding their mass and classification as elementary particles. There is no consensus on the implications of quark collisions or the interpretation of their properties.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various sources and concepts, such as the Particle Data Group and string theory, but there are unresolved questions about definitions and the implications of mass in particle physics.

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Individuals interested in particle physics, the nature of matter, and the implications of high-energy physics experiments may find this discussion relevant.

L.Newton
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Hello to all. I have a pretty general question. Hopefully it will require a somewhat technical answer. My question is this. Has there been any experiment where quarks have been smashed together? Perhaps at the lHC or Fermi. The other day I was told about such an experiment where two quarks were smashed and it was shown that the quarks are ultimately composed of nothing. They tried using this as an argument for a holographic universe. (Holographic as in the Matrix Movie would suggest). I tried finding that excitement and came up empty handed.. So has such an expire meant been conducted? If so were those the actual findings? Are our current particle accelerators equipped to run such experiments? Thank you and I await a response
 
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L.Newton said:
Has there been any experiment where quarks have been smashed together? Perhaps at the lHC or Fermi.
High energy collisions between two protons usually result in a direct collision between two of the quarks that make them up. This blog post by Matt Strassler has a good discussion.

L.Newton said:
The other day I was told about such an experiment where two quarks were smashed and it was shown that the quarks are ultimately composed of nothing.
I think what they meant by "composed of nothing" is that, as far as we can tell, quarks are elementary particles -- they are not made of any 'smaller' components.
 
Thanks that blog has been helping me out a lot. But here's another question. I understand that a particles mass is determined by energy. So why is it that I have heard to particles, such as quarks, as massless?
 
L.Newton said:
Thanks that blog has been helping me out a lot. But here's another question. I understand that a particles mass is determined by energy. So why is it that I have heard to particles, such as quarks, as massless?

Can you clarify your question? "heard to particles" makes no sense, and I'm not sure what you meant to say.
 
L.Newton said:
Thanks that blog has been helping me out a lot. But here's another question. I understand that a particles mass is determined by energy. So why is it that I have heard to particles, such as quarks, as massless?

You need to cite where exactly it is that you "heard" these things. This should start to be a habit that you need to do whenever you post here and want us to explain something you came across in your sources.

What you heard is wrong. You need to start looking at the Particle Data book:

http://pdg.lbl.gov/2013/listings/contents_listings.html

Notice that they listed the masses of the quarks. So your question should be answered by now.

Zz.
 
I meant to say point particles. I think it was in a book about string theory. It was some years back though. But yes I must cite more. Duly noted
 
I'm sorry I don't think it was zero mass. It was zero dimensional. My mistake.
 
So is the electron! It is considered a point particle, and it has mass! You don't have to go too exotic and use quarks as examples. The thing that flows in the conductors that bring electricity to your house has the same property!

Zz.
 
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