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The problem involves solving the equation sin(2y) = cos(4y) for y within the interval [0, 360]. Participants express difficulty in determining how to start the problem and explore relationships between sine and cosine functions.

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  • The original poster attempts to equate sine and cosine functions to simplify the problem. Some participants suggest expanding cos(4y) using trigonometric identities and discuss the application of the Binomial theorem. Others inquire about the underlying rules for expanding cosine functions and seek resources for future reference.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing different approaches and clarifying concepts related to trigonometric identities. Some guidance has been provided regarding the expansion of cosine functions, and there is an acknowledgment of useful identities, though no consensus has been reached on a specific method to solve the problem.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or reference. There is a focus on understanding identities rather than directly solving the equation.

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The problem is

Solve [tex]sin(2y)=cos(4y) for y, where \\0\leq y \leq 360[/tex]

This one is tricky, I want to try to equate either sin to cos or cos to sin so I can work with only one trig function, but how? I don't see how to start this problem. I know that the period of sin2y is 720deg or 4pi, and the period of cos4y is 8pi or 1440deg.
 
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I'd start it by expanding Cos4y to (Cos2y)^2 - (Sin2y)^2.
Sin2y = (Cos2y)^2 - (Sin2y)^2
Sin2y= 1 - (Sin2y)^2 - (Sin2y)^2
2(Sin2y)^2 + Sin2y - 1 = 0

I'd probably use the Binomial theorem to solve the equation from here. (EDIT - This can be factorised for a solution)
 
Thanks a lot acm, I appreciate it. :wink:

Could someone tell me the rule though? Cos4y definitely does expand out to (Cos2y)^2 - (Sin2y)^2, but how?

I would guess that Cos9y = (Cos3y)^2-(Sin3y)^2, but it doesn't...

I just want something that I can write down in my notes so that I can use it in the future. Thanks. Or if someone could refer me to a website that would be perfect.
 
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Ahhh that's right, I glanced over that handy identity, but should have put more effort into remembering it. Thanks!
 
Thats actually neater then it looks :) I played around with it for a bit and realized that Cos(4x) = Cos(2x+2x) = cos(2x)cos(2x)-sin(2x)sin(2x)=(cos(2x))^2-(sin(2x))^2 :)
 

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