Hawking Raditation and particle-antiparticle pairs

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The discussion revolves around the concept of Hawking radiation and the behavior of particle-antiparticle pairs near black holes. Participants explore theoretical aspects of black hole decay, the nature of energy associated with particles, and the implications of particle interactions with black holes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that black holes decay due to particle-antiparticle pairs, where the particle escapes while the antiparticle falls into the black hole, potentially leading to a decrease in the black hole's mass.
  • The same participant questions whether the falling antiparticle adds energy to the black hole and if this should increase its size.
  • Another participant argues that particles and antiparticles are equally likely to fall into the black hole, noting that both have positive mass/energy, but introduces the concept of virtual particles that can have negative energy, which could decrease the black hole's mass if they fall in.
  • A participant acknowledges the usefulness of a provided link for further understanding of Hawking radiation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of particle-antiparticle interactions with black holes, particularly regarding energy contributions and the likelihood of particles versus antiparticles falling into the black hole. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of energy, the nature of virtual particles, and the assumptions about particle behavior near black holes that remain unaddressed.

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The way I understand it it, black holes decay because particle-antiparticle pairs appear so close to the black hole that the particle gets away, but the antiparticle falls in and annihilates part of the black hole (Hawking Radiation), but there are two things I don't understand:
1) When the antiparticle falls in, doesn't it add energy to the black hole (because energy is always positive) and shouldn't it increase the size?
2) Why would more antiparticles fall in than regular particles, since the eruption of pairs from the vacuum is random, shouldn't equal numbers of both fall in while equal numbers of particles and antiparticles escape as radiation? Wouldn't this mean that the black hole's size shouldn't change (or if my understanding of 1 was right, get bigger).
Any insight would be appreciated.
 
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Read the stuff at the link that cristo gave.

Particles and anti-particles are equally likely to fall into the black hole, and, yes, both real particles and anti-particle have positive mass/energy. Virtual particles and anti-particles can be off-shell, and even can have negative energy, If a negative energy particle or anti-particle falls into the black hole, the mas of the black hole decreases.
 
@cristo: Nice link!
 

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