HCP miller indices in Orthogonal coordinate system

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on converting 4-index Bravais Miller indices for hexagonal close-packed (hcp) zirconium into 3-index orthogonal coordinate systems. Participants explore the implications of this conversion for crystal orientation in molecular dynamics simulations.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in converting 4-index Miller indices to 3-index indices for a simulation involving hcp zirconium.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "orientation" and suggests that the request may involve converting fractional coordinates to Cartesian coordinates.
  • A participant clarifies that they need to find the normal indices of a plane in the orthogonal coordinate system based on the given 4-index indices.
  • Another participant encourages sharing calculations to identify where the original poster may have encountered difficulties.
  • A participant presents a transformation matrix for converting indices, asserting that the normal indices should match the plane indices in a cubic system, but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of the matrix when applied to a specific example.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the conversion process and the correctness of the transformation matrix. No consensus has been reached on the appropriate method or the validity of the calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully clarified the assumptions underlying the transformation matrices or the specific definitions of the indices being used, which may affect the conversion process.

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Hi everyone,
I am doing MD simulation for zirconium (hcp). I have to input some orientation for crystal in simulation. But i have orientation in 4-index bravais miller indices. and i have to convert (plane and direction) it from 4-index to 3-index orthogonal coordinate system. Please help me.
Thanks a lot
 
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Thanks for your help DrDu,
I have some plane in hcp ( in 4-index Bravais miller indices). I have to find out it's (plane's perpendicular direction) normal indices in orthogonal coordinate system.
 
Ok, I see. Maybe you can show us your attempt to calculate the vectors and we can help you where you got stuck.
 
As you know, miller Indices of normal of plane is same as plane indices in cubic system. So, I assumed the same for hcp system. I got transformation matrix to change from 4-index to 3-index orthogonal system. Matrix is given below:
For a plane with the indices (h k i l):
tr([u v w])=[1 0 0 0; 0 1/sqrt(3) -1/sqrt(3) 0; 0 0 0 (a/c)]*tr([h k i l])
For a direction with indices (p q r s):
tr([a b c])=[3/2 0 0 0; 0 sqrt(3)/2 -sqrt(3)/2 0; 0 0 0 (c/a)]*tr([p q r s])

If i have a plane with indices (4 -3 -1 9), then i am not getting the same indices for plane and normal in orthogonal-system. I think matrix is wrong.
 

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