Heat Capacity and Thermal Equilibrium

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving heat transfer between a block of iron and a block of copper as they reach thermal equilibrium. The subject area includes concepts of heat capacity and thermal equilibrium in thermodynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the energy transferred during the thermal equilibrium process but questions their approach after finding an incorrect result. Other participants challenge the initial assumption about how the equilibrium temperature is determined and suggest that the contributions to the equilibrium temperature may not be equal.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the calculation of the equilibrium temperature. Some guidance has been offered regarding the formula for finding the equilibrium temperature, and there is acknowledgment of a correct answer by one participant.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of specific heat capacities for both materials and the mass of each block, which are critical to the calculations but may not have been fully utilized in the initial attempts. The discussion reflects a learning process where assumptions and methods are being scrutinized.

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Homework Statement


A 3.50-kg block of iron initially at 8.00 × 10^2 K is placed on top of a 6.25-kg block of copper initially at 4.00 × 10^2 K. Assume the blocks are thermally insulated from their surroundings but not from each other and that they constitute a closed system.

How much energy is transferred thermally from the iron to the copper as the two blocks come to thermal equilibrium?

Homework Equations


heat capacity=amount of energy transferred thermally (J)/resulting change in temperature
specific heat capacity (c) =amount of energy required to raise 1 kg of a certain material by 1 degree Kelvin (J/K*kg)

c of copper is 385, c of iron is 449

The Attempt at a Solution


Thermal equilibrium would be (400+800)/2=600. So during this process the copper would be raised 200 K. Using the specific heat capacity of copper 385 J/K*kg, I found that it would be 2406.25 J to raise 6.25 kgs of it by 1 K. To Raise 200 K it would be (2406.25)(200)=481250 J.

This is incorrect, however. What am I missing?
 
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MaryCate22 said:
Thermal equilibrium would be (400+800)/2=600.
No. Any other thoughts?
 
haruspex said:
No. Any other thoughts?

They do not contribute to the equilibrium temperature equally do they? I looked up a formula for finding equilibrium temp and otherwise worked it out the same. I got the right answer, thanks!

Formula for Equilibrium Temperature: c1m1(Tf-Ti)=c2m2(Tf-Ti)

-(449)(3.5)(Tf-800)=(385)(6.25)(Tf-400) Final Temperature= 558 K, so the copper is only raised 158 degrees.
 
MaryCate22 said:
I got the right answer
Good job.
 

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