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Heat Surge Amish-made fireplace

  1. Dec 27, 2008 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    Heat Surge "Amish-made" fireplace

    http://www.heatsurgetv.com/

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    http://www.heatsurge.com/

    The problem? These sell for up to $587.00 but are just a 1500 watt electric heater plus the fancy "Amish-made" cabinet.

    A 1500 watt electric heater like this sells at Walmart for less than $14.00

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    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=7768641

    Note that the Heat Surge cited maximum of 5110 BTUs, is just 1498 watts.
     
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  3. Dec 29, 2008 #2
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    the first one looks warmer. and it's pretty.

    the targeted consumer is probably shut-ins/elderly. :|
     
  4. Dec 29, 2008 #3
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    No one knows more about electric devices than the Amish.
     
  5. Dec 29, 2008 #4
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    Heat Surge is an established company with millions of satisfied customers whose focus is to exceed customer expectations.

    To accomplish this, along with other successful methods, we’ve set up a Web site to share the facts about our company at http://heatsurge.wordpress.com to address any questions or concerns you may have.

    Chris Pugh
    Heat Surge
     
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  6. Dec 29, 2008 #5

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    True or false: You can get the same amount of heat from a $15 electric heater from Walmart?
     
  7. Dec 29, 2008 #6

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    Re: Heat Surge "Amish-made" fireplace

    Yes, but this one does also raise barns for you
     
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  8. Dec 29, 2008 #7

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    Looks like you hooked a troll Ivan.

    Wooow. 5000 BTU's? That's a lot of BTUs.......isn't it? That a lot of thousands of BTU thingies.

    Taking advantage of the general public's stupidity is obviously a viable business practice still. This goes right up there with marketing 2 HP shop vacs for 110V use.

    If I were dead set on giving there web site a hit, I'd love to see what the cabinets are made out of. Do the Amish raise particle board barns now a days?
     
  9. Dec 29, 2008 #8
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    The video on the website is just flat out ridiculous.
     
  10. Dec 29, 2008 #9

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    I was just about to say I liked it. :redface:
    I feel old. :frown:

    :rofl:
     
  11. Dec 29, 2008 #10

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    I won't even bother checking the web-site. I've seen their print ads and they are just a bunch of scammers, fleecing the ignorant. In our area, electricity is by far the most expensive way to heat a house and the climate is such that 5000 BTU would be like throwing a hot-dog to a hungry lion.

    Edit: How do you get a "heat surge" out of a cheap 5000 btu resistive heater? The name itself is ridiculous.
     
  12. Dec 29, 2008 #11

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    Re: Heat Surge "Amish-made" fireplace

    I had one like this for the bathroom at my old house. It was from Home Depot.

    It was basically decorative, but it's also a space heater.
     

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  13. Dec 29, 2008 #12

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    I could get more heat by dragging out my tube amp and playing guitar for a while. All those tubes throw a bit of heat. I used to own a Peavey Classic 30 that got really hot - like the old Vox amps, it was a single-ended design that was dissipating power at max even when it was idling. At least I would be getting the side-benefit of guitar practice.
     
  14. Dec 29, 2008 #13

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    Cheezy marketing for sure, but spot heating most certainly does save energy.

    With the price, though, buying it for looks is the better bet.
     
  15. Dec 29, 2008 #14

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    It might be fair to sell it as a decorative item, but zone heating can be accomplished using any 1500 watt [electric] heater. If the intent is to save money, the last thing one needs is a fancy $200-$500+ cabinet enclosing an otherwise cheap heater.
     
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  16. Dec 29, 2008 #15

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    These rating are often obtained by increasing the voltage to the motor until the point that it self-destructs. The power rating is obtained just before it bursts into flames, or smokes. That is the "peak HP".
     
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  17. Dec 29, 2008 #16

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    Re: Heat Surge "Amish-made" fireplace

    I just bought a 300W UPS that is also labeled 650VA
     
  18. Dec 29, 2008 #17

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    Wow! Isn't the 2-gauge power cable a bit stiff?
     
  19. Dec 29, 2008 #18

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    I was mainly wondering what shape the sine wave output would have to be for that to add up.
     
  20. Dec 29, 2008 #19

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    I don't need no steenkin' heat surge. I'll just plug in my wife's hair dryer and point it at my feet to warm up.
     
  21. Dec 29, 2008 #20
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    We can guess...

    300W should be the output rating (why not in VA?). 650VA could be the peak VA requirements during line drop-out conditions.


    I can't wait for summer when I can by my Amish Frost Bite richy appointed in shimmering icicles.
     
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