Heat treat 800H steel to 1600F -- any contractors that can do this?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of heat treating a large reactor vessel made of 800H steel, specifically preheating it to approximately 1600°F to address weld cracks and impurities before welding. Participants are seeking contractors capable of handling such a large-scale project and sharing experiences related to similar tasks.

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  • One participant describes the need for preheating a 40' tall reactor to 1600°F to drive out impurities before welding and seeks contractors experienced in such large projects.
  • Another participant suggests searching for companies specializing in pressure vessel repairs and provides a link to relevant services.
  • A participant expresses frustration with previous contractors who were unable to handle the scale of the project and wonders if others have faced similar challenges.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the entire vessel needs preheating or just the areas around the cracks, referencing experiences from shipyards where only specific zones were preheated.
  • It is suggested that consulting a welding engineer familiar with ASME codes may be beneficial, and that reaching out to various individuals or companies could yield useful contacts, even if they cannot take on the project themselves.
  • A participant mentions the use of temperature indicating sticks to confirm preheat levels during welding processes.

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Participants express a range of experiences and suggestions, but there is no consensus on the best approach or the necessity of preheating the entire vessel. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific requirements for the heat treatment process.

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There are uncertainties regarding the exact location of the weld cracks and whether the entire vessel requires preheating. The discussion also highlights the importance of understanding the relevant ASME codes and the potential need for specialized contractors.

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I have a 40' tall 126" ID reactor that has some weld cracks. I need to pre heat this vessel to roughly 1600 F to drive impurities out of the grain before welding and also needs to be post treated. Has anyone ever done something similar on this large of a scale? I need to find a contractor capable of such a job.
 
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Rob Inks said:
I have a 40' tall 126" ID reactor that has some weld cracks. I need to pre heat this vessel to roughly 1600 F to drive impurities out of the grain before welding and also needs to be post treated. Has anyone ever done something similar on this large of a scale? I need to find a contractor capable of such a job.

You should at least do a search for companies experienced in pressure vessel repairs.

Try some of the companies at this link:

http://www.thomasnet.com/products/pressure-vessel-repair-services-91722207-1.html
 
Thanks for your help. I have used contractors in the past but they are not capable of such an enormous project. I know that we can't be the first company to need to do a vessel this big. Just throwing feelers out there to see if maybe anyone had been involved in a similar project.
 
Rob Inks said:
Thanks for your help. I have used contractors in the past but they are not capable of such an enormous project. I know that we can't be the first company to need to do a vessel this big. Just throwing feelers out there to see if maybe anyone had been involved in a similar project.
It's not clear where the vessel is welded. Are the cracks located such that the entire vessel needs preheating? Clearly, someone had to make this thing in the first place. Have you talked to the fabricator?

I've worked in shipyards where two large castings were welded together to form one large piece. The process was officially observed to make sure proper pre-heating of the zone to be welded was accomplished, but the whole piece did not need preheating. IIRC, the minimum preheat was about 1200 °F, which was to be confirmed by using a temperature indicating stick, such as this one:

http://www.tempil.com/products/tempilstik-original/

The welding zone of the cast pieces glowed an orange-reddish color when tested, and the heat coming from them was so intense that the person wielding the temp stick had to wear a welding glove and some extra insulation just to get close enough to check the piece.

It's also not clear what your experience is in such matters. I think you should consult with a welding engineer who has experience in the relevant ASME codes governing the construction of this device. Also, it doesn't cost anything to discuss this project with various individuals or companies. The people you talk to may not be able to handle a project this size, but that does not mean they can't steer you toward someone who might be able to manage it. You might also want to consider putting together a brief request for quotation which can be sent out for people to examine.
 
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