Heating gasses in space -- How could we make a greenhouse in space?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of creating a greenhouse in space or on another planet without an atmosphere. Participants explore the theoretical implications of heat retention in such environments and the materials that could be used to achieve this, as well as the purpose of such structures beyond supporting life.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that greenhouses on Earth work by stopping convection and questions if a similar concept could trap heat in a non-atmospheric environment using materials that allow short wave radiation in while trapping long wave radiation.
  • Another participant questions the purpose of a greenhouse in a vacuum, noting that greenhouses also block some radiation and that the emitted radiation is longer than what is absorbed.
  • Some participants propose that there could be reasons for wanting to passively warm a volume in space that do not relate to supporting life, such as keeping equipment warm or heating substances.
  • There is a suggestion to consider using an actual greenhouse structure instead of relying on gases for heat retention.
  • A light-hearted comment compares Earth to a greenhouse in the vacuum of space, implying a broader perspective on the concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and functionality of a greenhouse in a vacuum, with some questioning its purpose while others explore its potential applications beyond biological needs. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing ideas presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not reach consensus on the effectiveness of various materials or methods for heat retention in space, and assumptions about the purpose of such structures vary widely.

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How could we make a greenhouse in space. Thought experiment!
I was thinking the other day about green houses and how they would act in space or on another planet without an atmosphere. I know that green houses work on Earth by stopping convection but could they theoretically trap heat in a non atmospheric environment? I am imagining a material that allows short wave radiation in and traps long wave from escaping. My assumption is that a gas would have to be used such as CO2 but how could I calculate actual heat generated and how much gas is required?
 
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Greenhouses also block some radiation - longer wavelength, and the emitted radiation is longer than the avsorbed. But what's the point of a greenhouse in a vacuum?
 
I suppose we are being biocentric. There could be valid reasons for wanting to passively warm a volume that have nothing to do with living critters.
 
DaveC426913 said:
I suppose we are being biocentric. There could be valid reasons for wanting to passively warm a volume that have nothing to do with living critters.
Yes Dave. My initial thought was a passively warm volume in a simple structure on another planetary body for keeping equipment warm or heating substances.
 
Why use a gas? Why not an actual greenhouse?
 
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Well, I guess the Earth is a sort of greenhouse in the vacuum of space... 🙃
 

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