Heating water - microwaves vs kettle?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the differences between heating water in a microwave versus a kettle, specifically focusing on the taste and quality of the resulting beverages, particularly tea and coffee. Participants share personal experiences and observations related to the effects of heating methods on flavor, especially concerning hard London tap water and the presence of limescale.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a marked difference in taste between microwaved water and kettle-boiled water, questioning why microwaving does not yield a better flavor despite the absence of limescale in the microwave dish.
  • Another participant clarifies that while a microwave dish may not accumulate limescale, the minerals causing it remain in the water itself.
  • A participant mentions descaling their kettle and suggests that fine particles of limescale may still affect the taste of the water, yet finds microwaved water to taste worse overall.
  • Some participants express a strong preference for brewing tea using a kettle, arguing that anything less is inadequate, while others share differing experiences with reheating coffee in a microwave.
  • Questions arise regarding the impact of microwaving milk, with one participant speculating that the difference in taste may relate to the nature of milk as a colloidal solution.
  • Another participant inquires about the method of making tea, emphasizing the importance of boiling water before adding a teabag.
  • One participant reports negative results when microwaving water with and without a teabag, suggesting that the chemistry involved may be influencing the taste.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the effectiveness of microwaving versus kettle boiling for making tea and coffee, with no consensus reached on the best method or the reasons behind the taste differences.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors that could influence taste, such as the presence of limescale, the method of brewing, and the type of container used, but these factors remain unresolved in the discussion.

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I don't know whether this is appropriate for this sort of forum, but what would be the difference between microwaving standard tap water and boiling it in a kettle?

Not just any water, but hard London tapwater (eek), with all sorts of delicious impurities.

There's a marked difference in taste between the two, that's for sure. I assumed microwaving would be better because of the lack of limescale but I was proven wrong. Why?
 
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I've never actually tried to compare them. If by lack of limescale you mean in the microwave dish, then you should realize that the minerals that cause it are still in the water. The stuff deposited in a kettle has been removed.
 
Well, I descaled my kettle with a sharp knife just before and washed it all out. The idea is that fine particles of limescale get into the boiled water when poured into the cup, but that doesn't add up with the microwaved water tasting like filth in comparison.

Microwaved tea is just disgusting - and that's another one. Microwaving without milk then adding it will just absolutely destroy it, whereas microwaving afterwards will change the taste slightly but not destroy it.

6000+ years of physics and nobody knows how to make the perfect cuppa?
 
I reheat old coffee in the nuker all the time, and it tastes fine. Tea, on the other hand, simply has to be done in a scalded pot from a kettle. Anything less is blasphemy. (But so is adding stuff, to my mind...)
 
Coffee, doesn't have any milk to get spoiled. By "fine", do you mean "different but irrelevant" or "same taste"?

What is it about milk that hates microwaves?
 
That's a good question about the coffee taste; I don't know for sure. Ours never tastes quite the same way twice, so it's hard to remember what yesterday's was like the first time around. It's still good, though, as opposed to reheating it in a pot on the stove.
I was unaware of microwaves hating milk. Can't stand the stuff, so I've never tried it. Maybe it has to do with it being a colloidal solution rather than a strict liquid. I'm sure that someone with more of a chemistry background can clear that up.
 
How exactly are you making the tea? Do you boil the water in a teacup, then put in a teabag or put the teabag in first? You should boil the water first, just like when you use a pot.

And you aren't boiling the water in a not-necessarily microwave-safe plastic container, are you? If you are, you could be tasting the plastic...
 
Water straight into a ceramic mug.

I tried with just plain water, result: Nasty. I then tried with the teabag in, result: Double nasty.

No plastic involved. I think this is more chemistry oriented to be honest. Another difference, microwaving milk on its own causes no problems (using low energy + long time) but do the same for milk in tea and the milk itself is destroyed, per se.
 

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